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clark · 06-26-2002, 12:31 PM

I'm not sure if this is good news or not. When I first saw it, I was ecstatic, but now I'm not sure. As was posted above, the ruling came from the most liberal and most overturned circuit court. I think the Supreme Court will reverse it, based on their previous rulings. The Three Stooges (Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas) will only need to be joined by two justices to overturn it.

If the Supremes let it stand, you can bet that the fundies will have an "under god" constitutional amendment passed. Overturning such an amendment would be impossible in any of our lifetimes IMO. The public reaction to the ruling has been extrememly bad - even "shock jocks" Opie and Anthony railed against it. Such a constitutional amendment would be "fast tracked" into law.

I remember what state-church guru Edd Doerr said when he spoke at Lake Hypatia and addressed FFRF's lawsuit to get "in god we trust" off the money was in process. He said that he hoped FFRF lost the lawsuit because he feared the backlash. The intellectual and social climate of the US is not ready to let go of "under god" and "in god we trust", and the backlash would more than negate any gains we could make.

THOUGHTfully Yours,
Clark Adams

Writer@Large · 06-26-2002, 12:32 PM

Senator John Ensign (R - Nevada) is addressing the floor on C-SPAN 2. He's babbling about sailors and soldiers sacrificing this country, and what all those who died would have thought of this decision because, as his daddy taught him, "there are no atheists in foxholes." Fucker.

--W@L

hezekiah jones · 06-26-2002, 12:33 PM

This particular "loony liberal" was appointed to the Ninth Circuit by ... ahem ... Richard Nixon.

Anunnaki · 06-26-2002, 12:33 PM

FOX just reported that Bush has called the courts ruling ridiculous.

Thats all they said.

Toto · 06-26-2002, 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by Darwin's Finch:
<strong> Does anyone know what community he lives in? </strong>

Sacramento California

Typhon · 06-26-2002, 12:35 PM

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Senator John Ensign (R - Nevada) is addressing the floor on C-SPAN 2. He's babbling about sailors and soldiers sacrificing this country, and what all those who died would have thought of this decision because, as his daddy taught him, "there are no atheists in foxholes." Fucker.
--W@L

Where's Foxhole Atheist when you need him?

.T.

hezekiah jones · 06-26-2002, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by Anunnaki:
FOX just reported that Bush has called the courts ruling ridiculous.

So Bush joins Jerry Falwell ("nutty") and Bob Barr ("idiotic") with his in-depth and trenchant legal analysis.

Mecha_Dude · 06-26-2002, 12:35 PM

Good Idea finch, let's ALL support Mr. Newdow!

Darwin's Finch · 06-26-2002, 12:35 PM

Thanks, Toto. <pushes up sleeves and goes into letter writing mode>

Stephen Maturin · 06-26-2002, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by hezekiah jones:
<strong><a href="http://www.lucianne.com/threads2.asp?artnum=216904" target="_blank">Lucianne Goldberg's rightwing crazies go bananas online</a></strong>

LMAO! My, oh my, they seem a bit spun up.

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Between the WorldCom debacle and this, I'm nearly ready to throw up my hands in defeat. I see the legacy of Bill Clinton everywhere, like an ugly sore oozing pus all over our country.

Thanks for the visual, buddy.

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06-26-2002, 12:31 PM	#111
clark Beloved Deceased Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sin City, NV, USA Posts: 3,715	I'm not sure if this is good news or not. When I first saw it, I was ecstatic, but now I'm not sure. As was posted above, the ruling came from the most liberal and most overturned circuit court. I think the Supreme Court will reverse it, based on their previous rulings. The Three Stooges (Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas) will only need to be joined by two justices to overturn it. If the Supremes let it stand, you can bet that the fundies will have an "under god" constitutional amendment passed. Overturning such an amendment would be impossible in any of our lifetimes IMO. The public reaction to the ruling has been extrememly bad - even "shock jocks" Opie and Anthony railed against it. Such a constitutional amendment would be "fast tracked" into law. I remember what state-church guru Edd Doerr said when he spoke at Lake Hypatia and addressed FFRF's lawsuit to get "in god we trust" off the money was in process. He said that he hoped FFRF lost the lawsuit because he feared the backlash. The intellectual and social climate of the US is not ready to let go of "under god" and "in god we trust", and the backlash would more than negate any gains we could make. THOUGHTfully Yours, Clark Adams

06-26-2002, 12:32 PM	#112
Writer@Large Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 7,198	Senator John Ensign (R - Nevada) is addressing the floor on C-SPAN 2. He's babbling about sailors and soldiers sacrificing this country, and what all those who died would have thought of this decision because, as his daddy taught him, "there are no atheists in foxholes." Fucker. --W@L

06-26-2002, 12:33 PM	#113
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	This particular "loony liberal" was appointed to the Ninth Circuit by ... ahem ... Richard Nixon.

06-26-2002, 12:33 PM	#114
Anunnaki Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: I`ve left and gone away Posts: 699	FOX just reported that Bush has called the courts ruling ridiculous. Thats all they said.

06-26-2002, 12:35 PM	#118
Mecha_Dude Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Everywhere... I'm Watching you... Posts: 1,019	Good Idea finch, let's ALL support Mr. Newdow!

06-26-2002, 12:35 PM	#119
Darwin's Finch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Gardnerville, NV Posts: 666	Thanks, Toto. <pushes up sleeves and goes into letter writing mode>

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