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Boro Nut · 10-04-2002, 03:40 AM

Did anyone get the gist of the whole Abraham and God’s promise bit in the bible? Only I’m still trying to wrap my head around it all. I suppose I can imagine Abraham wanting to kill his son

“Ow, ow, that hurts Daddy”
“The bush told me to do it Son”
“But Daddy, it’s only twigs”

But why on earth did he promise to make a convent? Was it a present from God in exchange for killing his son? Was it Abraham or was it God who was suppose to make it? Was it this confusion over who’s convent it was and who was going to make it that lead to it not being built? Abraham never got beyond placing a few stones on top of each other, and come to think of it a fixed convent is not the most practical thing for a nomadic herdsman.

If Abraham promised to make the convent and didn’t is that why the Jews have been punished by God? God seems to think he made the convent at some time, because he mentions it at regular intervals throughout succeeding chapters, but at the same time seems confused as to whether he or the Israelites made it. What gives?

Boro Nut

Baidarka · 10-04-2002, 04:58 AM

Boro Nut:

Are you the reincarnation of Gilda Radner's Rosanne Rosanadana

"Never Mind!" or are you kidding. Which could make you the reincarnation of Gilda Radner instead!

cov�e�nant (k�v"…-n…nt) n. 1. A binding agreement; a compact. 2. Law. a. A formal sealed agreement or contract. b. A suit to recover damages for violation of such a contract. 3. In the Bible, God's promise to the human race. --cov�e�nant v. cov�e�nant�ed, cov�e�nant�ing, cov�e�nants. --tr. 1. To promise by or as if by a covenant. --intr. To enter into a covenant. --cov"e�nant"al (-n�n"tl) adj. --cov"e�nant"al�ly adv.

Baidarka · 10-04-2002, 05:16 AM

Boro Nut

Oh, your from England. I'm sorry my US comedic reference may be meaningless to you.
Gilda would play at being a confused news editorialist who would get all worked up about "saving Russian Jewelry" only to be informed that the expression is "Russian Jewry". She would look a little bit sheepish and say "Never Mind".

thebeave · 10-04-2002, 05:56 AM

Uh... Baidarka, I think you need to do your homework too. It was not Roseanne Rosannadanna. It was Emily Litella, as played by Gilda Radner.

Boro Nut · 10-04-2002, 07:48 AM

You're not kidding. I'm pretty sure you're not allowed jewellery in a convent.

Coragyps · 10-04-2002, 08:02 AM

But, whether as Emily or Rosanne, I feel that the world owes Ms Radner a huge debt of gratitude for perfecting the logical fallacy known as Argumentum ad Homonym.

CX · 10-07-2002, 06:28 AM

Off to humor we go...

10-04-2002, 03:40 AM	#1
Boro Nut Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Middlesbrough, England Posts: 3,909	God's Promise to Abraham Did anyone get the gist of the whole Abraham and God’s promise bit in the bible? Only I’m still trying to wrap my head around it all. I suppose I can imagine Abraham wanting to kill his son “Ow, ow, that hurts Daddy” “The bush told me to do it Son” “But Daddy, it’s only twigs” But why on earth did he promise to make a convent? Was it a present from God in exchange for killing his son? Was it Abraham or was it God who was suppose to make it? Was it this confusion over who’s convent it was and who was going to make it that lead to it not being built? Abraham never got beyond placing a few stones on top of each other, and come to think of it a fixed convent is not the most practical thing for a nomadic herdsman. If Abraham promised to make the convent and didn’t is that why the Jews have been punished by God? God seems to think he made the convent at some time, because he mentions it at regular intervals throughout succeeding chapters, but at the same time seems confused as to whether he or the Israelites made it. What gives? Boro Nut

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10-04-2002, 04:58 AM	#2
Baidarka Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 590	Boro Nut: Are you the reincarnation of Gilda Radner's Rosanne Rosanadana "Never Mind!" or are you kidding. Which could make you the reincarnation of Gilda Radner instead! cov�e�nant (k�v"…-n…nt) n. 1. A binding agreement; a compact. 2. Law. a. A formal sealed agreement or contract. b. A suit to recover damages for violation of such a contract. 3. In the Bible, God's promise to the human race. --cov�e�nant v. cov�e�nant�ed, cov�e�nant�ing, cov�e�nants. --tr. 1. To promise by or as if by a covenant. --intr. To enter into a covenant. --cov"e�nant"al (-n�n"tl) adj. --cov"e�nant"al�ly adv.

10-04-2002, 05:16 AM	#3
Baidarka Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 590	Boro Nut Oh, your from England. I'm sorry my US comedic reference may be meaningless to you. Gilda would play at being a confused news editorialist who would get all worked up about "saving Russian Jewelry" only to be informed that the expression is "Russian Jewry". She would look a little bit sheepish and say "Never Mind".

10-04-2002, 05:56 AM	#4
thebeave Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 4,183	Uh... Baidarka, I think you need to do your homework too. It was not Roseanne Rosannadanna. It was Emily Litella, as played by Gilda Radner.

10-04-2002, 07:48 AM	#5
Boro Nut Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Middlesbrough, England Posts: 3,909	You're not kidding. I'm pretty sure you're not allowed jewellery in a convent.

10-04-2002, 08:02 AM	#6
Coragyps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Snyder,Texas,USA Posts: 4,411	But, whether as Emily or Rosanne, I feel that the world owes Ms Radner a huge debt of gratitude for perfecting the logical fallacy known as Argumentum ad Homonym.

10-07-2002, 06:28 AM	#7
CX Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portlandish Posts: 2,829	Off to humor we go...

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