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Old 04-16-2003, 05:53 PM   #71
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Do you seriously think I stated that particular analogy as a matter of fact?

Read my friggin' response again. Do you seriously think from my response that I think you stated that particular analogy as a matter of fact as to the actual number of "anti-christian mandates" passed by your local education system? Your reading comprehension needs a bit of work.

From your analogy and other posts here, all I can tell is that you apparently think the majority of the mandates put out by your local education system are "anti-christian mandates". Since I assume there's more than one, probably more than ten, possibly dozens or even 100 or more such mandates total (anti-christian and non-anti-christian combined), I assume that there are many such anti-christian mandates that you are aware of (hence, my statement "Surely, if there's so many..."), and that you could therefore deign to provide us with one or two examples of such.

are you aware of illustrations....figures of speech? I understand the pleasure and satisfaction you may receive by not allowing an irrational "xian" any ability to use tools of the english language to make points, but I assure you, I will not return that dis-service to you.

Yeah, right. Try using your reading comprehension "tools" next time, if you have any, before going off half-cocked and making a bit of an arse of yourself.
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Old 04-16-2003, 06:07 PM   #72
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How come, now it's unpatriotic to question the uneleccted President, but during the Clinton years there was a constant unanimous telling of lies and distortion in the media, as if Clinton was the antichrist, as he was impeached and the rest of the country yawned?? All those republicans did nothing but tear down Bill & Hillary and even insulted their child, who has kept her nose clean and been an honor student at Stanford and Oxford, instead of getting arrested for underage drinking like the Bush twins, or being arrested for drunk driving like Shrub, or being AWOL from the national guard for 18 months and getting away with it like Shrub?? If he was anybody else, he would be HANGED by the neck until dead. That's desertion of duty to the armed forces. But he gets away with it......

The opinion of a democratically elected President:

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

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why are atheists so inexorably tied to the Christian religion?
why do they fight it?this should explain it;
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Old 04-16-2003, 07:24 PM   #74
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it is in response to myself. the teachers union is (overall) anti-christian. obviously it puts out many things that are not anti-christian...and things that are. But all of it (at least in my liberal minded state) is non pro-christian and non-pro christian morality.

so maybe I should start crying about PERSECUTION WOE IS ME!
xian, do you have any specific examples of anti-christian material put out by the teachers union? Just one example with a web link is all that is needed.

BTW, I agree with you. If the teachers union did indeed put out just one anti-Christian item that would be wrong, just as it would be wrong for them to put out just one pro-Christian item. It would be wrong for any agency of the government to do so. The problem is I can look in my wallet and find several examples of a government agency putting out something that is pro-Christian. Look just a bit harder and there are all kinds of pro-Christian things our government is doing that it should not be. Now it would be silly to suggest that it is atheists that are doing this, so the perps must be..... take a guess xian.

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are you aware of illustrations....figures of speech? I understand the pleasure and satisfaction you may receive by not allowing an irrational "xian" any ability to use tools of the english language to make points, but I assure you, I will not return that dis-service to you.
Yet, when I speak of "oppression", which in the context of my post OBVIOUSLY did not imply the extreme oppression such as in North Korea, you repeatedly did me the disservice of taking that figure of speech out of context and completely evaded the points I was making.

That kind of behavior prompts threads like Hypocrisy doesn't work.

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Why do Christians argue god with atheist?

Who else are they going to argue it with, except us?
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Old 04-17-2003, 05:08 AM   #77
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.........Good grief. ...............
Only the brain dead can believe there is something good about grief!
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Only the brain dead can believe there is something good about grief!
making some appeals to absolute moral law are we?

at the very least, you are making some appeals as to this thing called "good" that everyone is supposed to know about.
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Why do Christians argue god with atheist?

Who else are they going to argue it with, except us?
When I was a Christian, I would argue with other Christians about the god I believed in, but it made no real sense to me to argue with someone about a god they believed didn't exist. Granted, I got ensnared in the arguments at times because some of the atheists had a really rotten attitude. I enjoy arguing with people who have rotten attitudes. I liked seeing how far I could piss them off.
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I liked seeing how far I could piss them off.
sad, but a lot of people are like this.

there are two ways for someone to stroke their self-esteem and elevate themselves.

1) you elevate yourself by simply raising yourself through education, hardwork, positive discussion.

2) you elevate yourself by lowering others.
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