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KnightWhoSaysNi · 04-12-2002, 08:06 AM

Every Tuesday around noon or so (MST) Hugh Ross and Fuz Rana of Reasons to Believe have a live radio show called <a href="http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/creation_update/Archives.asp" target="_blank">Creation Update</a>

I plan to email in a few questions to the show.

Anyone with some advice on some good questions? I was thinking of asking how a creationist would explain shared duplication errors of pseudogenes between humans and primates, or perhaps asking him if he'll invite skeptics on the show.

[ April 12, 2002: Message edited by: Nightshade ]

ex-preacher · 04-12-2002, 08:16 AM

Why do men have nipples?

MrDarwin · 04-12-2002, 08:59 AM

Try asking why the overwhelming majority of biologists accept evolutionary theory, and why evolutionary biologists aren't leaving the field in droves, if there is really no evidence for evolution.

Is Ross a YEC? If so (and especially if he uses any ID arguments), try asking him if he thinks Michael Behe is stupid or a fool for explicitly accepting an ancient earth and common descent.

KC · 04-12-2002, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by Nightshade:
Every Tuesday around noon or so (MST) Hugh Ross and Fuz Rana of Reasons to Believe have a live radio show called <a href="http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/creation_update/Archives.asp" target="_blank">Creation Update</a>

I plan to email in a few questions to the show.

Anyone with some advice on some good questions? [ April 12, 2002: Message edited by: Nightshade ]

Was the geological formation at Kodachrome Basin State Park in Utah, which looks exactly like a huge anatomically correct set of aroused male genitalia, intelligently designed?

Cheers,

KC

ex-robot · 04-12-2002, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by MrDarwin:
Try asking why the overwhelming majority of biologists accept evolutionary theory, and why evolutionary biologists aren't leaving the field in droves, if there is really no evidence for evolution.

Is Ross a YEC? If so (and especially if he uses any ID arguments), try asking him if he thinks Michael Behe is stupid or a fool for explicitly accepting an ancient earth and common descent.

Ross is an OEC. He not only believes god created the animals originally, but he also believes he has created several times in the past after extinctions, etc!

xr

ex-robot · 04-12-2002, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Nightshade:
Every Tuesday around noon or so (MST) Hugh Ross and Fuz Rana of Reasons to Believe have a live radio show called <a href="http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/creation_update/Archives.asp" target="_blank">Creation Update</a>

I plan to email in a few questions to the show.

Anyone with some advice on some good questions? [ April 12, 2002: Message edited by: Nightshade ]

Ask him why he believes secular cosmologists and geologists but not evolutionary biolgoists. Ask him how he reconciles the order of creation in genesis and the order of things appearing according to evolutionists. He has an answer, but it is fun to hear it again.

xr

KnightWhoSaysNi · 04-16-2002, 07:33 AM

In a few hours, Hugh Ross's Creation Update webcast radio show will be on. Below is what I will submit as an email question. I look forward to their reply, assuming they pick mine.

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Dr. Ross and Dr. Rana,

Two questions:

I was curious if you had ever planned to invite a prominent skeptic or evolutionist on the show. I'd be very interested in hearing the exchange of views.

Also, how would you explain the appearance of shared pseudogenes between related species? For example, most mammals can synthesize their own vitamin C, while humans and other primates cannot. However, primates all share a non-functional gene that allows the synthesis of vitamin C. If we assume primates were designed separately, don't you think it's rather an odd coincidence that somehow they all experienced a mutation that made the gene non-functional? To me, this example screams "common ancestry."

Shared duplicaton errors between humans and other primates are also found. Humans and chimps share identical retroviral sequences in the same chromosome positions.

As a creationist, would you have an explanation better than common ancestry that can account for these things?

Source: <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/molgen/" target="_blank">http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/molgen/</a>

[ April 16, 2002: Message edited by: Nightshade ]

MOJO-JOJO · 05-30-2002, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by KCdgw:

Was the geological formation at Kodachrome Basin State Park in Utah, which looks exactly like a huge anatomically correct set of aroused male genitalia, intelligently designed?

Cheers,

KC

...in His image!!

Vinnie · 05-30-2002, 07:22 PM

""""Ask him why he believes secular cosmologists and geologists but not evolutionary biolgoists""""

Ross has a PHD in Astronomy. From what I hear he keeps up on the Astronomical Journals. I think his credentials in that field are pretty good so you might want to reword the question.

Vinnie

Vinnie · 05-30-2002, 10:13 PM

Oh yeah, aren't there more theists fond in the astronomical sciences than there are in the biological sciences?

Vinnie

04-12-2002, 08:06 AM	#1
KnightWhoSaysNi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 2,767	Hugh Ross's radio show Every Tuesday around noon or so (MST) Hugh Ross and Fuz Rana of Reasons to Believe have a live radio show called <a href="http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/creation_update/Archives.asp" target="_blank">Creation Update</a> I plan to email in a few questions to the show. Anyone with some advice on some good questions? I was thinking of asking how a creationist would explain shared duplication errors of pseudogenes between humans and primates, or perhaps asking him if he'll invite skeptics on the show. [ April 12, 2002: Message edited by: Nightshade ]</p>

04-16-2002, 07:33 AM	#7
KnightWhoSaysNi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 2,767	In a few hours, Hugh Ross's Creation Update webcast radio show will be on. Below is what I will submit as an email question. I look forward to their reply, assuming they pick mine. ------- Dr. Ross and Dr. Rana, Two questions: I was curious if you had ever planned to invite a prominent skeptic or evolutionist on the show. I'd be very interested in hearing the exchange of views. Also, how would you explain the appearance of shared pseudogenes between related species? For example, most mammals can synthesize their own vitamin C, while humans and other primates cannot. However, primates all share a non-functional gene that allows the synthesis of vitamin C. If we assume primates were designed separately, don't you think it's rather an odd coincidence that somehow they all experienced a mutation that made the gene non-functional? To me, this example screams "common ancestry." Shared duplicaton errors between humans and other primates are also found. Humans and chimps share identical retroviral sequences in the same chromosome positions. As a creationist, would you have an explanation better than common ancestry that can account for these things? Source: <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/molgen/" target="_blank">http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/molgen/</a> [ April 16, 2002: Message edited by: Nightshade ]</p>

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MrDarwin Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 4,140	Try asking why the overwhelming majority of biologists accept evolutionary theory, and why evolutionary biologists aren't leaving the field in droves, if there is really no evidence for evolution. Is Ross a YEC? If so (and especially if he uses any ID arguments), try asking him if he thinks Michael Behe is stupid or a fool for explicitly accepting an ancient earth and common descent.

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Vinnie Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Waterbury, Ct, Usa Posts: 6,523	""""Ask him why he believes secular cosmologists and geologists but not evolutionary biolgoists"""" Ross has a PHD in Astronomy. From what I hear he keeps up on the Astronomical Journals. I think his credentials in that field are pretty good so you might want to reword the question. Vinnie

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Vinnie Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Waterbury, Ct, Usa Posts: 6,523	Oh yeah, aren't there more theists fond in the astronomical sciences than there are in the biological sciences? Vinnie

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