Downsindrone

I would like to say thanks to the majority of people who responded to my post. I'm serious, a lot of your comments actually made me stop and think for a minute! I appreciate the thoughtful conversation and I also feel I owe you an apology. I started out cheerful but I could tell by reading it later I kept getting more and more frustrated. Not because we dont agree but because i'm VERY opinionated!
And for the record, no I'm NOT a christian. Just because I read the bible and feel that God guides me, doesnt qualify me, trust me.
I would like to say one thing to turt though... I'm sorry but I did a lot of research today and yes, the MAJORITY of evolution books are pretty old, 15+ years. Science itself evolves from one form to the next. I truly do believe that eventually science will be forced to come up with something besides darwins theory.
I cant remember who said it, but someone said that you are the last minority group that had no protection from ridicule and discrimination.
I disagree, Yes you are open to ridicule, but cmon! so is everyone else! I get crap a lot for even saying the word God. Many people I'm friends with are FIERCE atheists.
But i'm sure it can be a little crappy, knowing that your viewpoint is different than others. Look, my point is, and PLEASE dont take this as witnessing or anything...
I think "fundys" are egotistic shitheads who do more Bad that Good. They DONT lead by example(exept on Sunday morning, when they punch in for church, then punch out for the rest of the week.)
And I dont want to "save" you. You dont need to be "saved." That has been my point the whole time. I just hope that oneday maybe you might give God a chance to get to know you. It may not help you, but it sure has helped me! And who is that hurting? Like i said, i dont rely on God, he can point me in the right direction, but i still have to get off my ass and move!
Take care of yourselves and be safe!

Huginn

If you are searching Amazon.com for Evolution books you may have a bit of trouble as many of the more recent textbooks on the subject don't actually have the word 'Evolution' in the title.

Pantera

Since they've been writing 'em for 150 years, I guess about 90% would fall into that category.

Vorkosigan

but I did a lot of research today

Spent a day over at Kent Hovind's website, did you?

Michael

zamboniavenger

I imagine any spike in anti-evolution books down may have noticed can also be traced to the rise of the YEC movement.

kwigibo

i would have thought recent work in evolutionary theory would be published in scientific journals, not the novel-like paperbacks that creationists publish. the amount or date of the books has nothing to do with it anyway, how u could possibly use this to support your creationism must require a number of cognitive leaps. just look at and understand evolution, then u can make judgements

Mageth

Why don't you go to the Library of Congress web page and do a search:

<a href="http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=hbSearch" target="_blank">LoC search</a>. Select the "subject" search.

Enter: evolution (biology)
Then enter: creationism

Well over a thousand hits for the first, less than 200 for the second.

Theophage

Originally posted by Downsindrone:
I would like to say thanks to the majority of people who responded to my post. I'm serious, a lot of your comments actually made me stop and think for a minute!

Give or take 59 seconds...

And for the record, no I'm NOT a christian. Just because I read the bible and feel that God guides me, doesnt qualify me, trust me.

A non-Christian adult with an invisible magic friend is just as silly as a Christian adult with an invisible magic friend.

You get no bonus points for a different flavor of delusion.


Science itself evolves from one form to the next. I truly do believe that eventually science will be forced to come up with something besides darwins theory.

Why because you don't like it? Because you don't understand it? Science is certainly not a popularity contest. The evidence overwhelmingly says that modern life on earth is due to common descent with or without Darwin's theory on the mechanism of such.

And to be honest, evolutionary biology hasn't been strictly Darwinian in a good long time. Do a google search for "modern synthesis", "genetic drift", or "neutral theory" and perhaps you'll see what I mean.

And I dont want to "save" you. You dont need to be "saved."

That's the first sensible thing I've seen you say yet.

I just hope that oneday maybe you might give God a chance to get to know you.

Who says we haven't? But alas, it seems that God favors the ignorant and irrational.

Orpheous99

Originally posted by Downsindrone:

And for the record, no I'm NOT a christian. Just because I read the bible and feel that God guides me, doesnt qualify me, trust me.


Guess what? Yes it does. You're just a Cut&Paste Christian, or worse a theists.