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Old 06-12-2003, 02:31 PM   #61
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But they were anulled. Ya know ... like the law against eating pork ... Christians don't keep it.
Yeah, cause someone perfect fufilled them, and died to pay for us not being able to live up to them, since we are fallen creatures.

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In fact all laws that Gentiles didn't want to keep were anulled.
Its more complicated than that my friend.
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Its more complicated than that my friend.

Explain.
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Old 06-12-2003, 02:33 PM   #63
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The laws werent thrown out because Gentiles decided that...God told Peter, the first Pope, that the Gentiles were to be included and that the old was no longer applicable.
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Old 06-12-2003, 02:35 PM   #64
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Explain.
More sidetrack, sorry, but I'll try to be brief.

If the old was to make way for the new, then that must mean that God knew that the old was going to give way to the new when he started out. Or he would have just given the new straight away, and never bother with the old. Or he changed his mind.

or he just works in mysterious ways
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Then it's funny that only those laws that Gentiles didn't want to keep were thrown out.

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God told Peter, the first Pope, that the Gentiles were to be included and that the old was no longer applicable.
The Gentiles had already been included in God's covenant by observing the seven Noahide commands (the commandments of the Sons of Noah, given after the Flood).
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I said there are some moral absolutes, yes. As far as you saying he attempted to murder his kid, that isn't exactly the whole story, is it?
No it isn't the whole story, theres the slaves, the rape, being a rustler, cruelity to animals and making your wife get gang banged by Pharohs court...all because voices in his head told him.
The people of his day considered him to be completely moral because they were sure that the voices only Abraham heard were God. The bible confirms that it was.
So answer the question please are theses the same morals we have today or have they changed?
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If the old was to make way for the new, then that must mean that God knew that the old was going to give way to the new when he started out.
Of course He knew what would happen. Part of the point of it was to teach mankind something that had to be learned through experience.
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No it isn't the whole story, theres the slaves, the rape, being a rustler, cruelity to animals and making your wife get gang banged by Pharohs court...all because voices in his head told him.
The people of his day considered him to be completely moral because they were sure that the voices only Abraham heard were God. The bible confirms that it was.
So answer the question please are theses the same morals we have today or have they changed?
Chapter, Verse please where the "voices" told him to do these things.
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Then it's funny that only those laws that Gentiles didn't want to keep were thrown out.
Everything except the Law of Love was thrown out, it wasnt pick and choose, as you say.
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Gotta go folks, its quitting time!

I will be back tomorrow...reload your guns, I will be ready to dodge in "bullet-time"...
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