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callina · 03-29-2002, 12:09 PM

I'm depressed. All the talk about in god we trust, prayer in school, the ten commandments, etc... Who wants to share an uplifting story about the separation of church and state? Anyone have an article or a link for a "keeping god out of government" success story? C'mon, there has to be something!

Toto · 03-29-2002, 12:59 PM

The Senate Democrats rejected Charles Pickering, a conservative Bush tried to appoint to the bench. This indicates they might have the backbone to stand up to a truly bad Supreme Court nominee.

I'll think of more.

crazyfingers · 03-29-2002, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by callina:
I'm depressed. All the talk about in god we trust, prayer in school, the ten commandments, etc... Who wants to share an uplifting story about the separation of church and state? Anyone have an article or a link for a "keeping god out of government" success story? C'mon, there has to be something!

Here is a good one from another topic. While it's not C-S Separation, because the school was private, it shows some common sense among the parents who would certainly react the same way for public school.

<a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=45&t=000317" target="_blank">Wrong answer for preschool</a>

callina · 03-29-2002, 04:50 PM

Thanks, guys. Sadly, I know nothing about Pickering, but I'll see what I can find. Oops, I had read the preschool article already and then promptly forgot it. Thanks.

I think I found one in our local paper. Quite a shock.

<a href="http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/metro/0302/0329teach.html" target="_blank">Metro Atlanta school teaches evolution</a>

There are some inflammatory statements made by the creationists that go unchallenged, but the end result is good.

Vorkosigan · 03-30-2002, 01:20 AM

Is there any good news? Of course Callina! Regis and Lew defeated Sharra, and you were there at the end too. Cheer up! Your sacrifice is worth it.

Michael

Kevin Dorner · 03-30-2002, 07:18 PM

Pres. George W. Bush again positively recognizes unbelievers in <a href="http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=B377BE94-6455-4516-A3082C04ECCCEB68&Title=Bush%20Easter%20Message%3A% 20Evil%20Will%20Not%20Prevail" target="_blank">his Easter broadcast.</a>

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"Americans practice different faiths, in churches, synagogues, mosques and temples," added Mr. Bush. "And many good people practice no faith at all."

Previously, he recognized unbelievers postively at a prayer breakfast, and also stated directly that the United States has no official religion. Methinks I'll be seeing more comments from the hard right that his "liberal Methodism is showing though." Let it show...

Some may say it's "lip service" but I say: better lip service than none at all, and worlds away better than his father's derision was...

crazyfingers · 04-01-2002, 04:11 PM

Here is another...

<a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=59&t=000150" target="_blank">Navel Academy</a>

DarkBronzePlant · 04-02-2002, 09:46 AM

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Here is another...

<a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=59&t=000150" target="_blank">Navel Academy</a>

Is that where you go to learn about belly buttons?

callina · 04-03-2002, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by turtonm:
Is there any good news? Of course Callina! Regis and Lew defeated Sharra, and you were there at the end too. Cheer up! Your sacrifice is worth it.

Michael

yeah, yeah, my sacrifice was worth it...is that the comyn party line these days?

callina · 04-03-2002, 12:25 PM

Regarding Bush's easter broadcast -- I suppose it is better than nothing, but his statements still leave me wanting more. I guess it would be impossible for him to use the word "atheist" in the same sentence as the word "good".

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callina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 87	Any good news? I'm depressed. All the talk about in god we trust, prayer in school, the ten commandments, etc... Who wants to share an uplifting story about the separation of church and state? Anyone have an article or a link for a "keeping god out of government" success story? C'mon, there has to be something!

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03-29-2002, 12:59 PM	#2
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	The Senate Democrats rejected Charles Pickering, a conservative Bush tried to appoint to the bench. This indicates they might have the backbone to stand up to a truly bad Supreme Court nominee. I'll think of more.

03-29-2002, 04:50 PM	#4
callina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 87	Thanks, guys. Sadly, I know nothing about Pickering, but I'll see what I can find. Oops, I had read the preschool article already and then promptly forgot it. Thanks. I think I found one in our local paper. Quite a shock. <a href="http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/metro/0302/0329teach.html" target="_blank">Metro Atlanta school teaches evolution</a> There are some inflammatory statements made by the creationists that go unchallenged, but the end result is good.

03-30-2002, 01:20 AM	#5
Vorkosigan Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Barrayar Posts: 11,866	Is there any good news? Of course Callina! Regis and Lew defeated Sharra, and you were there at the end too. Cheer up! Your sacrifice is worth it. Michael

04-01-2002, 04:11 PM	#7
crazyfingers Contributor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 13,699	Here is another... <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=59&t=000150" target="_blank">Navel Academy</a>

04-03-2002, 12:25 PM	#10
callina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 87	Regarding Bush's easter broadcast -- I suppose it is better than nothing, but his statements still leave me wanting more. I guess it would be impossible for him to use the word "atheist" in the same sentence as the word "good".

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