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mark9950 · 07-18-2003, 05:59 PM

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Didn't you already post a topic with the same title? What is the point of these posts, especially in the GRD forum?

No my previous post was I was looking for a new god to worship

I have found a new god to worship.

the greek gods were part of the ancient religions that influenced what we today called christianity.castor and pollux is in the bible.

God-jesus-holy spirit is no different than my new god ares who is the god of war.They are both myths that never existed except in the minds of people.

But, I like ares he was great on xena warrior princess.

I also looked up the man(kevin smith) who played ares on xena and unfortunately he had died.

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Smith,%20Kevin%20(II)

Opera Nut · 07-18-2003, 06:09 PM

Ares is the same guy as the Roman god Mars.

Mars is the red planet. The star Antares in Scorpio is red.

The name Antares means against (anti)Ares or (Aries). THis is b/c it is a red star in the Southern Hemisphere, in the constellation Scorpio.
(Fascinating stuff you learn from studying astronomy!)

Hermes is the Roman God Mercury. Ya know, the one with the winged sneakers, that he probably bought from Nike. The goddess fell on hard times so she started makin' sneakers.

BrotherDog · 07-19-2003, 01:30 PM

The Improbability of God
by Richard Dawkins

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The following article is from Free Inquiry magazine, Volume 18, Number 3.

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Much of what people do is done in the name of God. Irishmen blow each other up in his name. Arabs blow themselves up in his name. Imams and ayatollahs oppress women in his name. Celibate popes and priests mess up people's sex lives in his name. Jewish shohets cut live animals' throats in his name. The achievements of religion in past history - bloody crusades, torturing inquisitions, mass-murdering conquistadors, culture-destroying missionaries, legally enforced resistance to each new piece of scientific truth until the last possible moment - are even more impressive. And what has it all been in aid of? I believe it is becoming increasingly clear that the answer is absolutely nothing at all. There is no reason for believing that any sort of gods exist and quite good reason for believing that they do not exist and never have. It has all been a gigantic waste of time and a waste of life. It would be a joke of cosmic proportions if it weren't so tragic.

This is only the first paragraph of the article, but it expresses my point of view perfectly. GOD??? Bah Humbug!!! :banghead:

Doctor X · 07-19-2003, 01:32 PM

Yeah . . . but Dawkins is wrong about Ares. . . .

--J.D.

BrotherDog · 07-19-2003, 01:39 PM

Bah Humbug, etc, etc, etc!!!!!

WWSD · 07-19-2003, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Opera Nut
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The name Antares means against (anti)Ares or (Aries). THis is b/c it is a red star in the Southern Hemisphere, in the constellation Scorpio.
(Fascinating stuff you learn from studying astronomy!)

I think Scorpius is a Northern hemisphere constellation. It is low to the south on summer nights here in NM. I'm not sure if it is visible in the Southern hemisphere unless you are close to the equator.

I'm a Scorpio in fact, and one of the first constellations I learned was Scorpius.

In any case, It is really a striking constellation and IMO one of the easier ones to recognize.

Finding Canis Venatici on the other hand...

Opera Nut · 07-20-2003, 01:40 AM

Mea culpa!
[I refuse to say stupid shit like "my bad". Latin is so much more elegant.]

Uh, you're right, it's south of the celestial equator, but in the ecliptic, the big sinewave that goes thru the constellations and tells us which ones are astrological signs.

Here in beautiful South Texas, it's fairly high in the sky.
We're at 29 deg 58 min North.

Texas runs from approximately 25 deg N (Brownsville) to 35 deg N (Amarillo).

I think what I was trying to say was that it's a southern constellation in the Northern Hemisphere, and since we're pretty far south in the US, it's high in the sky. I've never been in the Southern Hemisphere (yes I know, I'm behind the door and under a rock when it comes to serious travel) so I've never seen a Magellanic Cloud.

Forgive me, I haven't looked thru a telescope since about the time Halley's Comet came thru in the winter of 1985 right after my ex and I had our daughter. He has a serious Meade Schmidt-Cassegrain 8 inch with a humongo-fork mount and quartz clock drive, photographic adapters yada yada.

Too bad halleys looked like some fuzz off the end of a Q-tip this time around.

I really enjoyed looking at stars, especially with his Celestron Peeping Tom Specials -- 11 x 80 binocs. Nothing like sittin' in a lawnchair lookin at the stars. Especially the nifty nebula field around Sag/Scorpio.
===

Well, anyway that was a derail, but a very interesting one anyway!

07-18-2003, 06:09 PM	#22
Opera Nut Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,671	Ares/Aries/Mars -- Hermes/Mercury Ares is the same guy as the Roman god Mars. Mars is the red planet. The star Antares in Scorpio is red. The name Antares means against (anti)Ares or (Aries). THis is b/c it is a red star in the Southern Hemisphere, in the constellation Scorpio. (Fascinating stuff you learn from studying astronomy!) Hermes is the Roman God Mercury. Ya know, the one with the winged sneakers, that he probably bought from Nike. The goddess fell on hard times so she started makin' sneakers.

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BrotherDog Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Quechan Indian Reservation, Fort Yuma Ca. Posts: 22	Bah Humbug! Bah Humbug, etc, etc, etc!!!!!

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07-19-2003, 01:30 PM	#23
BrotherDog Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Quechan Indian Reservation, Fort Yuma Ca. Posts: 22	The Improbability of God by Richard Dawkins -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following article is from Free Inquiry magazine, Volume 18, Number 3. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Much of what people do is done in the name of God. Irishmen blow each other up in his name. Arabs blow themselves up in his name. Imams and ayatollahs oppress women in his name. Celibate popes and priests mess up people's sex lives in his name. Jewish shohets cut live animals' throats in his name. The achievements of religion in past history - bloody crusades, torturing inquisitions, mass-murdering conquistadors, culture-destroying missionaries, legally enforced resistance to each new piece of scientific truth until the last possible moment - are even more impressive. And what has it all been in aid of? I believe it is becoming increasingly clear that the answer is absolutely nothing at all. There is no reason for believing that any sort of gods exist and quite good reason for believing that they do not exist and never have. It has all been a gigantic waste of time and a waste of life. It would be a joke of cosmic proportions if it weren't so tragic. This is only the first paragraph of the article, but it expresses my point of view perfectly. GOD??? Bah Humbug!!! :banghead:

07-19-2003, 01:32 PM	#24
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	Yeah . . . but Dawkins is wrong about Ares. . . . --J.D.

07-20-2003, 01:40 AM	#27
Opera Nut Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,671	Mea culpa! [I refuse to say stupid shit like "my bad". Latin is so much more elegant.] Uh, you're right, it's south of the celestial equator, but in the ecliptic, the big sinewave that goes thru the constellations and tells us which ones are astrological signs. Here in beautiful South Texas, it's fairly high in the sky. We're at 29 deg 58 min North. Texas runs from approximately 25 deg N (Brownsville) to 35 deg N (Amarillo). I think what I was trying to say was that it's a southern constellation in the Northern Hemisphere, and since we're pretty far south in the US, it's high in the sky. I've never been in the Southern Hemisphere (yes I know, I'm behind the door and under a rock when it comes to serious travel) so I've never seen a Magellanic Cloud. Forgive me, I haven't looked thru a telescope since about the time Halley's Comet came thru in the winter of 1985 right after my ex and I had our daughter. He has a serious Meade Schmidt-Cassegrain 8 inch with a humongo-fork mount and quartz clock drive, photographic adapters yada yada. Too bad halleys looked like some fuzz off the end of a Q-tip this time around. I really enjoyed looking at stars, especially with his Celestron Peeping Tom Specials -- 11 x 80 binocs. Nothing like sittin' in a lawnchair lookin at the stars. Especially the nifty nebula field around Sag/Scorpio. === Well, anyway that was a derail, but a very interesting one anyway!

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