alek0

I don't understand them. I definitely don't. Of all Abrahamic religions, which are all full of insults to women, Islam is the worst.

On one of the boards I visit occasionally, there is a section on Muslim families, majority of posters are female americans converted to Islam. They keep throwing in arabic phrases, talking how wonderful Islam is, etc. There was one post recently which truly puzzles me, here are some quotes:
What kind of thinking is that? What is driving those women to accept to be completely covered and to find it "empowering". Empowering how?
I've read lots of apologetics from women on Islam and requirements cocerning dressing, and I just don't get it. They claim that to cover themselves is to be liberated, to be appreciated as persons and not only based on their looks. However, I don't really get the impression that women are considered as persons in Islam. Why is testimonial of 2 women witnesses equal to one man?

Any explanations for this? What is making women embrace those same restrictions that women elsewhere are fighting hard against?

Amos

Alec I don't claim to understand Islam but I know that the female who is 100% woman hums when she is barefoot pregnant and in the kitchen.

She hums because speach is left brain.

She is barefoot because idolatry is left brain (ego is left brain).

She is pregnant because the womb of man is the right brain (the womb of man is the soul of man).

She is in the kitchen to show the right brains' nature to nurture.

Now, having had the courage to write what I did I must add that no female is 100% woman because all are human and to the same extent that females are human are they not woman. To arrive at this I call our humanity our masculinity and place this opposite to our womanity which is our effeminity. Accordingly, to make an increase in our humanity will be at the reduction of our womanity.

To show better what I mean by that is to say that our right brain is our non-rational brain and our left brain is our rational brain. If this is true it is also true that to the same extent that we are rational are we not non-rational and so the more rational we become the less non-rational we will be, and, therefore, the more masculine we become the less effiminate we will be.

From the above follows that public exposure is for the enhancement of our humanity while at the same time it is intimidating towards our womanity and, if this is true, the reverse will also be true.

What I think they are doing is in effort to liberate their womanly gender identity they curb the exposure of their masculine gender identity.

The censorship of human (masculine) qualities in females is universal around the world in one form or another and in Islam they just take it a little overboard, or alot, I would say, but really, if it makes them hum, what do we care?

Another thing to add is that effeminate females reproduce masculine males and masculine females reproduce effeminate males (or girls only) and that is just how genetics work. At least, that is how it works with animals and we have know that for a great many years.

The above is actually in the bible.

Triple Six

I think we can safely say Amos is 100% right brain according his latest crackpot theorem.

Triple Six

alek0

Count me in as another extremely puzzled person. I've seen people embrace religion for financial or politcal gain, but choosing a religion that is clearly insulting to the convert

Has there been any survey done to show that these poor women are even more mentally and emotionally disturbed than the average convert less misogynisitic(sp) religions?

Thor Q. Mada

All three abramic religions (we are sooo lucky there are only three) are full of relics from a barbarian past. More in particular, they are the invention of the male part of the society.
This results in all these silly and outrageously insulting rules and regulations governing women and their behavior. And , as you can see some women even find this kind of threatment "empowering". This lady must be masochistic or what??

alek0

Hey Thor,
glad to see someone else from Hong Kong here!

I don't know whether those converts are more disturbed than the rest of the population. Most of them seem to be converts from christianity.
Some more pearls of wisdom from that board:

Objections to Christianity & reasons to convert:

Does one need religious book to tell her one should wash before, during, and after periods? Eeeeewwwwww....

Who would voluntarily consider himself/herself a slave?

OTHER QUOTES:

Why was this "or EVEN Asian non-muslim women"? WTF?

And beleive it or not, some of them even try to justify the Taleban:

I guess I'd better stop if I don't want this moved to rants section. I would really like to know why?

lpetrich

And I thought the ultimate in liberation was to wear no makeup, short hair, a flannel shirt, and blue jeans -- and thus often get mistaken for a teenage boy

sidewinder

I found a website a couple months back called <a href="http://www.thetruereligion.org." target="_blank">www.thetruereligion.org.</a> It has featured a few articles since 9/11 about many Americans, in particular American women, converting to Islam. It's beyond my understanding how anyone (male or female, especially in Western countries) could convert to Islam. I read one conversion story from an American woman who converted to Islam and became such a fanatic that her husband took their two children and left. Her only comment was that if her husband and her kids don't convert to "the one and only true religion" then they would burn in hell for eternity. It doesn't get much more disturbing than that.

frostymama

I just had an eye opening dicusion on another board about Islaam. Before now I was rather indifferent to Islaam and viewed it as any other minority religion in the US that gets persecuted by the majority. I have even defended Muslim women from Xians on other boards before (I now realize that those women were very liberal Muslims)

2 women basically got into a fight over who was the "True" Muslim (one was liberal and one covered her face). The more fundamentalist on actually at one point defended the stoning of women convicted of adultery in Nigeria as "just". She also brought up the whole " a man needs 4 male or 8 female witnesses to be convicted of rape. A woman only needs a pregnancy to convict her of adultry."

MortalWombat

The same question could be asked about women who actively seek relationships from death row inmates. Or even those women on that new <a href="http://abc.abcnews.go.com/primetime/specials/bachelor/show.html" target="_blank">Bachelor</a> show.