BioBeing

Thi says nothing more than many humans feel a need for "something else". Doesn't make it real.

One explains the unexplainable by scientific study. Develop a hypothesis and test it. Do ghosts/UFOs exist? Show me the scientific evidence. Until I see it, I will assume that they do not. Even if ghosts or UFOs do exist - how does one get from there to "God exists"?

PS - AFAIK, Fox Muldur is a character on a TV show...

Mageth

Checking the "data" that has poped up from these discussions, I certainly confirm my prior belief that one cannot find God via scientific methods.

Nor can one find god through religion - god doesn't exist, at least not as an external entity that interacts with man. Organized, written-down religions keep one from finding personal fulfillment, which can only come from inside, through realizing the true value of this brief life we have, to find a purpose for oneself, not from external forces like religions which seek to impose an external god-concept on us. If there is a god, it's within you, not outside of you. And it's not God. And religion keeps one from this self-realization.

But still, things of the spirit have never been scientifically proven, yet "religion" has been around since history has been recorded. Doesn't this say something about things of a spiritual nature?

Yes - that "spirituality" is something within us, common among us, embedded in our psyches. Most of us experience similar "spiritual" feelings, leading one to believe in the commonality of this spiritual feeling - it's somehow hardwired into us (though it is definitely enhanced, taken advantage of, even distorted, by our exposure to "religions" from the outside). God is merely a man-generated personification, an externalization, of that internal "spirituality".

malookiemaloo

This is yet another example of the many contrived anti-christian arguments which appear on the Sec Web.

But is it really wrong to want some kind of reward? Don't forget it is not wrong to 'love yourself' as that is the standard to adopt in dealing with others. Love youir neighbour 'as yourself'.

We tend to think of reward in terms of material considerations viz. loads of money, position of importance, a Rolls Royce or two etc etc. But if a Christians reward is to know God better.......................Wow!


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mike_decock

Why do you think it's so contrived? I think most Christians would agree that doing a good deed for no reward is more virtuous than doing a good deed for a reward.

I don't think it's wrong to want a reward. Whether that's right or wrong has no bearing on which is more virtuous.

-Mike...