Magus55

Nice stereotype. So I guess everyone with a doctorate in theology is stupid and lacks intelligence?

Why bother, you won't listen to any of my explanations. You will just come up with some not so witty, sarcastic response to insult me.

Hardly. Einstein believed in God, Hawkings attributes the universe to a higher power, Newton was a Christian etc. Some of the most famous geniouses and scientists in history were Christian or theists. Much more than 1%. And not that you'd believe it, but I do have near genius IQ, if not over the genious mark. And I'm a musical prodigy. But since I believe in God, i must be stupid right?

winstonjen

We don't believe it because you haven't demonstrated it in your posts, and because you haven't given us any evidence.

Magus55

I haven't demonstrated it in my posts, because I don't accept your view of the world as fact? Talk about close minded. So, in other words, you can only be intelligent if you accept scientific observation as fact, and dismiss God and religion as myth? Gotcha. You certaintly don't lack in the arrogance and pride department.

conkermaniac

The first part was a joke, but the second part was not. Anyone with a doctorate in theology has already been so blinded by faith that they cannot possibly look at the Bible in an objective, rational manner.

Because you cannot come up with a decent explanation to save your life (or at least I haven't seen one). Your credibility has been in doubt ever since I saw you run away from that flood thread. You seem to argue exclusively in the threads where only the most obvious responses are necessary. Go ahead, give an explanation to all those contradictions. I won't insult you (I probably won't even respond), but I just want to see how you would respond to those arguments.

Neither Einstein nor Hawking were Christians, and I don't really believe that Einstein admitted that there was a God. Didn't someone else already have this discussion with you? Because back then, people didn't know any better. There was no notion of evolution and Big Bang...heck, some people still insisted that the earth was flat! I am sure that if you presented Newton with the evidence that we know today to be true, he would hardily give up his religious beliefs. Keyword: in history...circa 1400. And are many others on this forum. You're certainly much better than the average fundamentalist Christian, although you certainly could certainly improve on your modesty. I never said that. There are many Christians these days who regard much of the Bible as myth, yet believe in a God. I certainly would not generalize such people as stupid. However, because you take the Bible literally, I find it extremely hard to believe that you are indeed as smart as you claim to be. That's why I want to see how you interpret those "supposed" contradictions.

winstonjen

Probably because they were forced to under threat of death from the Church. The Catholic Church which you hate so much.

Well, I certainly don't start with the presupposition that the bible is true and then discard all contradictory evidence. Talk about self-deception.

My irony meter just exploded.

Doctor X

Ah . . . nothing like appeals to authority . . . especially when the authority to whom one appeals disagrees!!

Ironic at best, dishonest at worst.

--J.D.

Jack the Bodiless

And since when do YOU hold more merit over the millions of theologists who have been studying the Bible's supposed contradictions for thousands of years, and have concluded that the Bible is NOT inerrant?

In other words: virtually ALL of them?

Even among Christians, only a handful of crackpots believe that the Bible is inerrant. No competent scholar believes that it is, because they can see that it isn't.

No major Christian denomination, except the Southern Baptists and Jehovah's Witnesses IIRC, preaches Biblical inerrancy. Catholicism does not, Anglicanism does not, Lutheranism does not, Presbyterianism does not, Methodism does not...

Jack the Bodiless

I would also like to know your basis for stating that only Jesus came back from the dead.

PLENTY of people have come back from the dead.

Haven't you even heard of Osiris, Orpheus, Ishtar, Appolonius of Tyana, Sai Baba, and all the MANY other real or mythical people who also came back from the dead?

...What, you don't believe those stories?

Why not?

winstonjen

Don't forget Lazarus!

Soul Invictus

You sure about that, with the Bible not contradicting itself? What is it called when you read something in one place, yet in another place the prior statement is negated? In reference to the millions of theologists who have studied the contradictions, I would say they either have done a poor job of getting their analysis out or Bible supporters just like them fail to follow their studies. Christian apologists who frequent here should be qualified to explain away these contradictions. Who considers the Bible the greatest and most reliable book in history? Not me? Maybe you do, but don't speak as though that's an operating consensus for the general population.