DeeEss

Where does this aspect of god fit into christianity? I hear that the Koran mentions the trinity including Mary but, not the holy ghost. I find that completely understandable considering the lack of mention for the most part. Was there an absolute necessity for three aspects?

Newfie

Well, a connection between just two points would have been pretty one-dimentional, wouldn't it? The HS kinda serves as the bureaucratic office of the godhead, the part that people actually deal with on a day to day basis. God the father doesn't dwell within the folks in the pews. He's distant and way too important to be making personal appearances and Jesus is too busy redeeming everyone with his blood, so it's up to the HS to mingle with the common man and do all jobs that are beneath the other two.

He's the odd job part of God.

Back Again

This would be a good topic for BC&H, but I haven't personally seen clear indication of the personification of the Holy Spook in the bible. (I'm neglecting the forged interpolations such as the comma johanneum.)

If "Holy Ghost/Spirit" were replaced by "power of God", would there be a loss of the intended meaning of the original authors? Would anyone include "power of God" in a Godhead?

I'm guessing the personification cleared up some theological problems with impregnating Mary...perhaps some birthright nonsense. I really don't know.

arricchio

The Holy Ghost is to the trinity what Larry was to the Three Stooges. :wave:

Free Indeed

I am glad someone asked such an important theological question that I can help clear up. You see I am very familiar with the Holy Ghost and converse with him daily. The Holy Ghost is the 3rd part of the Godhead trinity. God being first, Jesus second then the Holy Ghost. Here is how it works for a Christian, God predestins us, Jesus saves us and the Holy Ghost seals us for eternity.

The Holy Ghost's jobs is to point to Jesus, convict us of our sins, regenerate believers at the point of salvation, and to be a gurantee of our salvation.

Deus Ex

:lol:

Thanks for that.

Earl IV

They have medication for that

Completely disregarding the fact there's no mention of the trinity in any Greek text prior to Erasmus time, the "proof-text" (1 John 5:7) having been completely made up by the Spanish around 400AD and it did not appear in Catholicism until the Latin Vulgate around 800AD.

Considering all that, I'd say the spook is of little importance.

Back Again

So the personification of the Holy Ghost was self evident to the early Church fathers presumably because they were also having regular conversations with him?

We would expect that early Church fathers would have dealt with the heretical Unitarians and Binitarians by saying that the Holy Spirit is clearly a person since they talk to Him. That's interesting and should be supported by their writing.

Back Again

It was apparently very important to the theology of the "winners". Why? I expect it had to do with the Man/God nature of Christ or the impregnation of Mary.

I really wish a Mod would move this over to BC&H.

Newfie

So the members of the trinity are not equal?