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wundermonk · 08-28-2012, 03:27 AM

It is funny when a debate between religions turns into a free-for-all to expose which "holy book" has the most porn in it.

Here is a video where a Christian and a Muslim go at each other full-throttle.

Muslim: The Bible is not from God because there are these shocking verses:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ezekiel 23:20

There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

Christian: Well, the Quran is guilty too. Look at how these "houris" (virgins) in Allah's heaven are described by it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quran 78:33

Indeed, for the righteous is attainment - Gardens and grapevines and full-breasted [companions] of equal age.

:banghead::facepalm:

Can the discourse be kept at a higher level?

Full Disclosure - There are many detailed sexual descriptions of Sita in the Ramayana (a Hindu epic) - lest it be thought I am picking on other religions alone!

Were all holy books written by sex-starved men who then went on to preach abstinence for everyone else? :huh:

premjan · 08-28-2012, 04:04 AM

Who preached abstinence? The Ramayana, Koran and Bible are not especially concerned with abstinence.

DoubtingDave · 08-28-2012, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wundermonk

It is funny when a debate between religions turns into a free-for-all to expose which "holy book" has the most porn in it.

Here is a video where a Christian and a Muslim go at each other full-throttle.

Muslim: The Bible is not from God because there are these shocking verses:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ezekiel 23:20

There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

Christian: Well, the Quran is guilty too. Look at how these "houris" (virgins) in Allah's heaven are described by it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quran 78:33

Indeed, for the righteous is attainment - Gardens and grapevines and full-breasted [companions] of equal age.

:banghead::facepalm:

Can the discourse be kept at a higher level?

Full Disclosure - There are many detailed sexual descriptions of Sita in the Ramayana (a Hindu epic) - lest it be thought I am picking on other religions alone!

Were all holy books written by sex-starved men who then went on to preach abstinence for everyone else? :huh:

LOL I have not laughed so hard at a religious debate for so long. Thank you for the share.

Iskander · 08-28-2012, 05:00 AM

Ezekiel is, apparently, one of the prophets of Islam and whatever he says has nothing to do with Christianity.

Quote:

The prophets listed below are the ones we do know of through our Prophet and through the Quran.
Arabic Name>>>>>>>English Name
Adam
Idris >>> Enoch Approx. 1600-1800 after advent of Adam.
Nuh >>> Noah Approx. 1600 years after advent of Adam.
Hud >>>>>Approx. 2900 years after advent of Adam.
Salih >>>>Approx. 3000 years after advent of Adam.
Ibrahim >>>>Abraham Approx 3400 years after advent of Adam.
Isma'il >>>>>Ishmael Approx 3400-3500 years after advent oAdam.
Ishak >>>>>Isaac Approx 3400-3500 years after advent of Adam.
Yaqub >>>>>Jacob Approx 3500-3600 years after advent of Adam.
Lut >>>>>>>Lot Approx. 3400 years after advent of Adam.
Shuaib >>>>>Approx. 3900 years after advent of Adam.
Yusuf >>>>>>Joseph Approx. 3600-3700 years after advent of Adam.
Ayub>>>>>>>Job Approx. 3800 years after advent of Adam.
Dhul-Kifl
Yunus >>>>>>Jonah Approx. 3800 years after advent of Adam.
Musa & Harun>>>>>Moses & Aaron Approx. 4000 years after advent of Adam.
Hizqueel >>>>>>>Ezekiel Approx. 4800 years after advent of Adam
Elisha >>>>>>>>>Elyas Approx. 4500 years after advent of Adam.
Shammil>>>>>>>>Samuel Approx. 4250 years after advent of Adam.
Dawud>>>>>>>>>David Approx. 4300 years after advent of Adam.
Daniel>>>>>>>>>Daniel Approx. 4800 years after advent of Adam
Uzair>>>>>>>>>>Ezra Approx. 4850 years after advent of Adam.
Zechariah>>>>>>>Zakariya Approx 5400 years after advent of Adam
Yahya>>>>>>>>>John Approx. 5400 years after advent of Adam.
Isa>>>>>>>>>>>Jesus Approx. 5400 years after advent of Adam
Mohammed>>>>>Approx. 6000 years after advent of Adam

http://www.imanway.com/en/showthread.php?t=2183

steamer · 08-28-2012, 01:33 PM

So Mohammed came about a mere 6,000 years after the first man.

The god that created reality says this book is bullshit. This is so easy to see.

PS. The god that created reality would know better, but I think he is pretend.

Keith&Co. · 08-28-2012, 01:39 PM

Heck, Fundies get a chubby from any evidence that their litany is right AND from any evidence that the other guy's is wrong.

it's all porn.

steve_bnk · 08-28-2012, 01:41 PM

In Song Of Solomon I believe the writer likens a woman's breast to peaches and thighs to doe skin, or something close. Erotic verse.

Sex as dirty or profane came from the Catholics.

James Brown · 08-28-2012, 01:48 PM

Stevebnk: In Song Of Solomon I believe the writer likens a woman's breast to peaches and thighs to doe skin, or something close. Erotic verse.

Sex as dirty or profane came from the Catholics.

Quote:

4:5 Your two breasts are like two fawns,
Twins of a gazelle,
Which feed among the lilies.

7:7 7 This stature of yours is like a palm tree,
And your breasts like its clusters.
8 I said, “I will go up to the palm tree,
I will take hold of its branches.”
Let now your breasts be like clusters of the vine,
The fragrance of your breath like apples,
9 And the roof of your mouth like the best wine

8:10 10 I am a wall,
And my breasts like towers;
Then I became in his eyes
As one who found peace.

Splarnst · 08-28-2012, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by premjan

Who preached abstinence? The Ramayana, Koran and Bible are not especially concerned with abstinence.

Well, Jesus did, along with his teaching to give away all of your possessions. The only people who follow these teachings are monks, friars, and nuns.

steve_bnk · 08-28-2012, 01:59 PM

It was Paul who advocated abstinence. Failng that he said get married, have sex, and take a break once in a while for prayer.

Isla, and Judaism were not about abstinence, they were/are mysogynist i in the conservative versions..

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08-28-2012, 04:04 AM	#2
premjan Obsessed Contributor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 61,538	Who preached abstinence? The Ramayana, Koran and Bible are not especially concerned with abstinence.

08-28-2012, 01:33 PM	#5
steamer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: CA Posts: 7,653	So Mohammed came about a mere 6,000 years after the first man. The god that created reality says this book is bullshit. This is so easy to see. PS. The god that created reality would know better, but I think he is pretend.

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Keith&Co. Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsfield, Mass Posts: 24,500	Heck, Fundies get a chubby from any evidence that their litany is right AND from any evidence that the other guy's is wrong. it's all porn.

08-28-2012, 01:41 PM	#7
steve_bnk Contributor Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,602	In Song Of Solomon I believe the writer likens a woman's breast to peaches and thighs to doe skin, or something close. Erotic verse. Sex as dirty or profane came from the Catholics.

08-28-2012, 01:59 PM	#10
steve_bnk Contributor Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,602	It was Paul who advocated abstinence. Failng that he said get married, have sex, and take a break once in a while for prayer. Isla, and Judaism were not about abstinence, they were/are mysogynist i in the conservative versions..

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