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Old 07-07-2007, 09:14 PM   #11
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Don't let him change the dialog, keep asking him to prove it. Otherwise this thread is pointless.
Agree.

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Old 07-07-2007, 09:17 PM   #12
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Welcome to Internet Infidels, Samurai! You may well have an interesting time here.....

BEHAVE, folks! And exercise all the self-control you can muster so we don't get a huge dogpile here! In fact, let's see how it goes if, for five hours or so, we limit ourselves to the three(?) posters who are here already - or single replacements for them if they state they are leaving.

Give it a try.....
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:20 PM   #13
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Before I prove it, let me ask you some questions.

1. Do you believe that Evolution Theory is really basing its explanation naturally? I mean, is ET (Evolution Theory) really the sole natural explanation of nature?
Evolution Theory doesn't actually claim to be the sole natural explanation of nature (whatever that means). It claims to be a scientific explanation of morphological change over time and the resulting development of new species.

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2. If you say yes, then, do you have a concrete and hard evidences for ET, to be labeled as "naturalistic" science?

I can not find one.
Have you actually looked? The evidence is rather manifest in the fossil record, in the distribution of species on the plant, and in our genes. Maybe you can't see it because of religious blinders.

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Evolution Theory (ET) is not natural science. It is supernatural, fable, mythological, and pokemon-styled- science.

I can prove it.
I've answered your questions, so how about showing us this proof of yours? (I'm just all tingly with anticipation)
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:29 PM   #14
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Are you the same samurai who posts at RD.net, and who has had multiple threads there locked for repeated spamming of these same goofy claims and refusing to look at all the contrary evidence presented?

Just curious.

Yes, I am the same person. Since I am not convince logically with your fellow ET believers there, then, I had to ask others to present me the real and hard evidences of Evolution Theory as presented by ET proponents as "natural" explanaton of nature.

Because basically, we had to deal and teach science in naturalistic way. And by doing this, logically ET fails.

If you consider it as spam, then, prove to me: WHERE ARE THOSE HARD EVIDENCES of Evolution Theory to be considered it as "naturalistic" scence?

I've proven it there in RD.net. I will prove it here, too! Since they can't give me the EVIDENCES, they had resorted in ad hominem. I did not use ad hominem there. I cannot use it if logical argument and debate and if truth is at stake.

It is good that you are here. You can help others to add some additional information about DEBUNKING Evolution Theory.

I knew that you are very afrdaid that your ET will be debunked by the same logic and reason that you are using to deceive the public.

IT is good. Now let us talk about science...real naturalistic science.
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What kind of evidence would it take to convince you?
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:32 PM   #16
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Welcome to Internet Infidels, Samurai! You may well have an interesting time here.....

BEHAVE, folks! And exercise all the self-control you can muster so we don't get a huge dogpile here! In fact, let's see how it goes if, for five hours or so, we limit ourselves to the three(?) posters who are here already - or single replacements for them if they state they are leaving.

Give it a try.....
Thanks, Moderator.

There is no bad in trying. There is also no bad in questioning old Theories and debunking them and replacing with new and logical scientific explanation.

Besides, if truth is out there, it will surely comes out.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:36 PM   #17
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I've proven it there in RD.net. I will prove it here, too! Since they can't give me the EVIDENCES, they had resorted in ad hominem. I did nt used af\d hominem there. I cannot use it if logical argument and debate and if truth is at stake.
Er...no, the only thing you 'proved' at RD.net is that if you keep ignoring all the evidence that was provided and just keep regurgitating your same inane claims, you'll get your threads locked.

What makes you think repeating the same actions here will turn out any differently? Do you go to the same church as afdave?
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This thread was created by samurai as an outlet for him to prove the falsity of evolutionary theory. When asked to do so, he replied with a battery of questions in effect demanding that we demonstrate the validity of evolutionary theory. This sort of rhetorical maneuvering shouldn't be validated. There are enough threads within the past week full of IIDBers patiently marshaling evidence in support of evolution; if samurai wants them, he can go there. But this thread, by his own expressed intention, was created to hold his presumably detailed, scientific explanation of the falsity of evolutionary theory, and that is precisely what we should expect and demand.

So go ahead, samurai. We all trust your confident statements aren't just empty arrogations.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:44 PM   #19
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Evolution Theory (ET) is not natural science. It is supernatural, fable, mythological, and pokemon-styled- science.

I can prove it.

Now, I am a Christian.
Are we to assume you were you not a xian before this?

That making this statement changed your status?

If so, how so?




Oh, by the way, if you can indeed "prove it" by which I assume you mean you have an argument to the effect "Evolution Theory (ET) is not natural science. It is supernatural, fable, mythological, and pokemon-styled- science." which is supported by evidence, then by all means, produce produce said argument and such evidence.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:50 PM   #20
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This thread was created by samurai as an outlet for him to prove the falsity of evolutionary theory. When asked to do so, he replied with a battery of questions in effect demanding that we demonstrate the validity of evolutionary theory. This sort of rhetorical maneuvering shouldn't be validated. There are enough threads within the past week full of IIDBers patiently marshaling evidence in support of evolution; if samurai wants them, he can go there. But this thread, by his own expressed intention, was created to hold his presumably detailed, scientific explanation of the falsity of evolutionary theory, and that is precisely what we should expect and demand.

So go ahead, samurai. We all trust your confident statements aren't just empty arrogations.
Seconded. Don't buy into his game of trying to shift the burden of proof. Make him stand by his OP.
Samurai, you made the claim, you back it up.
I will now exit teh dogpile. Woof.
 
 

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