Minimalist

I'm actually willing to accept that there are scholars who are experts in a given field and their opinion is far more informed than mine.

However, when "historians" are cited as accepting a historical jesus and then have no more evidence than the average apologist I do become suspicious of their "expertise."

Toto

The same standards apply to all. Do you have any examples where there has been a double standard???

Toto

This is your strange misimpression. Can you give an example?

Chili

But the appeal to authority itself is symptomatic of pandering a fallacy that here now is called ad vericundiam. It is useful in public debates where the conclusion is not self evident and put's a question-mark behind his PhD.

Chili

Well Toto, if for 2000 they have been debating over the same thing and have not found a solution, and are about to shift towards 'mythicism' as popular train of thought, it does not show much insight by the whole lot of them, Universities, librairies and archeologist and all.

Chili

Yes but he is the boss over a mystery religion and obviously not Christian, and must pretend to be while on the seat of Peter where only the unfailing word is from as the Church in motion and never Christian, not even then, as they are sinners, remember? with confessionals to prove it too!

In other words, sin is what they are all about and let God find his own.

Adam

But the mythicists do not claim the same. They acknowledge that the scholarly consensus is against them. They are willing to name names of those who support them and those who don't.

You, in contrast, state your opinions as if well known and acknowledged by everyone worth citing--but you never cite anyone unless intensely pressed post-after-post. The difference between you and aa is that you assert you know it all and it may turn out that some top scholars agree vaguely with you whereas aa is as dogmatic but rarely says what anyone agrees with (much less top scholars). It's as if you're a stopped clock that's right twice a day and aa isn't because he denounces anyone who thinks he agrees with aa.

Sheshbazzar

As brother John says, Burn mystery Babylon, burn, burn, you old whore. Rev 18:8,9,18

(it is only that city and its mystery religion institution that is destroyed here)

Chili

Well if God finds his own he will know his own and the old city of God must go so the New Rome will be his in the freedom from oblivion.

Sheshbazzar

A New Rome? Not a chance in hell.