outhouse

This is a term I see mythers and apologist commonly perverting and abusing from a a point of ignorance.


I think these definitions need to be posted for those who wish to abuse said phrase.

http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/authority.html


I. Argumentum ad Verecundiam: (argument from authority) the fallacy of appealing to the testimony of an authority outside his special field. Anyone can give opinions or advice;

the fallacy only occurs when the reason for assenting to the conclusion is based on following the recommendation or advice of an improper authority.










Argument from authority (argumentum ad verecundiam), also authoritative argument and appeal to authority, is an inductive-reasoning argument that often takes the form of a statistical syllogism. Although certain classes of argument from authority can constitute strong inductive arguments, the appeal to authority is often applied fallaciously: either the authority is not a subject-matter expert, or there is no consensus among experts in the subject matter, or both.


Far from being a fallacy, appeal to proper authority is intellectually responsible research.

Toto

Are you prepared to show that the authorities you claim support you 1) are actually authorities and 2) actually support you? You usually skip over these steps.

Nevertheless, even when appeal to authority is not a logical fallacy, it doesn't work in this forum. Authorities have been known to be wrong. Those who challenge a consensus may have the burden to show that the authorities are wrong, but they are still entitled to make their case.

AdamWho

Appeal to authority is also different from an appeal to expertise.

mountainman

Amen.


But on the strength of prior posts I expect outhouse may disagree.

outhouse

Whole heartedly agree.


The details here are very important when bringing in outside opinions.

But to have people call "appeal to authority" only because they have a conspiracy theorists mindset. Is wrong.

Understanding all the while, if one post from expertise, it does not ensure correct info. All going back to---------


Far from being a fallacy, appeal to proper authority is intellectually responsible research.

Toto

Go back to my first comment. You can't just claim that the consensus of scholars supports your position. You have to say which scholars, why they are authorities, and what exactly they claim.

This field is full of bogus authority from anyone's point of view.

outhouse

which doesnt address this at all

Key word being "proper"

the way your trying to word this, your throwing out education and knowledge in favor of a conspiracy theorist heaven, the like "ancient aliens" excels at.

outhouse

I am prepared. are you?

I would ask that a double standard not be applied, and that mythicist be required to d the same.

aa5874

Please name the PROPER authority for the historical Jesus argument and the PROPER authority for the Myth Jesus argument.

If there was a PROPER authority for the Historical Jesus argument then perhaps you would not have to invent your NO TAX Jesus story.

Based on your flawed view Christians are intellectually responsible when they accept the PROPER authority of their Church.

Sheshbazzar

Well there is the Pope and the Vatican. :hysterical: