Chili

The second coming clearly points at a personal second coming wherein the believer is born again to become Jesuit-by-nature (instead of a Nazarite in Judaism) who now must lead the old Catholic to the cross and have him crucified much in the same way that Jesus was crucified.

The destruction of the temple refers to the abandonment of religion as a means to the end which obvious must be left behind before resurrection can take place or there could be no freedom from the bondage of slavery and sin for the redeemed sinner.

Chili

In the mythicist position Jesus died to set Christ free under the name of Barr-abbas. Christ never died and cannot die because it is in Christ that we can have eternal life to say that this human life is an illusion or a reflection of the life that can be ours wherein we are eternal = temporal as human and eternal as man [in the image of God].

Mark gives the physical version, Matthew the satanic version and Luke the divine version that is needed to realize John.

bacht

I kind of agree with this part. If Christ was the Son, then He could never really die. But His existence, and death & resurrection, were/are in Heaven, not earth.

I don't accept that there is anything eternal about humans. There is no afterlife, no resurrection, no reincarnation etc imo.

Chili

To transform earth into heaven our mind must be transformed in the Convergence of the Twain that joins two hemispheres http://www.melodylane.net/ianwhitcomb/twainpoem.html to make us one with Christ and eternal as such because our soul will be no more.

There is nothing eternal about humans (hu- is from humi =earthly), but if our human condition can be seperated from us it can be nailed to the cross and we walk away from it as man without the prefix hu-, = no longer earthly but heavenly if you allow me to place heaven opposite to earth.

In the above the Titanic is our ego and the iceberg is the 'woman' that we left behind a long time ago as described in this poem:
http://rpo.library.utoronto.ca/poem/1663.html

bacht

If you're speculating about how to evolve our consciousness to achieve cosmic unity, or something like that, you don't have to start with the biblical tradition. Anyway, this is way off-topic.

Chili

And each generation will have its own new scholarly view because you cannot study the bible for 40 years and have nothing to say.

Chili

Christians would look for a physical second coming because they missed the spiritual second coming that made them think they are Christian . . . as if they have been given a scoprion instead of a fish.

Chili

Parousia is the final ousia wherein the accumulated ousias are placed opposite an unknown positive as the negative stand of the final rout wherein the 'pearl of great worth' is sought. There being no effective positive stand in this rout makes it a first order entymeme that we call "salvation by grace" that only comes our way [like a thief in the night] after we have surrendered all . . . which is equal to the negated ousias that attract parousia.

In Matthew they called them shepherds who's flocks were the riches they each contributed in the mind of wily carpenter/sheep rancher (?) now on his way to Bethlehem (house of bread). Bethlehem is like our state of mind at birth (here fully beyond surrender and beyond theology), and so Joseph was going there as if dragging his ass behind the donkey (his body) on which Mary was enthroned who now was fully in charge and leading 'him' to where 'she' wanted him.

It is so that the birth of Christ in Bethlehem takes place in the mind of Joseph and we call that the first coming as an example to follow, from which follows that the second will be much the same except that here he is born in the mind of the upright believer. For the Jews this will be the first coming and for Catholics it will be the second while Christians are consciously looking up for better days ahead.

Chili

Son of man must get crucified in Galilee to become fully Man and only if he walks away from that will he have proved himself to be divine. A good parallel here is the battle at Corioli where Volumina's greatest joy was that the man-child now had proved himself to be a man (which was not the case in Matthew or Macbeth).

To get crucified one must first be born again so that there now is two natures of which the human nature must be crucified and be rasied into the upper house where it is placed subservient to intuition. IOW Galilee, or the consicious mind where this battle takes place, must be vacant wherefore all reformed shepherds (his prior ousias called to be disciples) must be left behind so that they too can be raised into the upper room.

I might point out here that the imposter was crucified so set the savior free
who is savior only if and when his own world is transformed into paradise on earth.

Chili

It is not possible to write Mark without knowing the exact details on where and how to go wrong. To do this one must first know what is right from wrong and for this the author must know first hand what a divine comedy is like and from there present the efficient causes of the failure. Mark just gives us the material and formal cause to which Matthew adds the efficient cause of the failure while Luke gives us the efficient cause of the comedy.

One must remember here that the Gosples (the NT as a whole) is inerrant and that the apparent errors exist only in our perception of it until these same differences compliment our reading of them.