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stephan huller · 12-28-2012, 06:33 PM

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...21228?irpc=932

Toto · 12-28-2012, 07:53 PM

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The Rev. Jeremiah J. Boland, administrator of the church, said on Friday that he is "not that interested" in carbon testing the items to see if they are from the beginning of the Christian Era.

They can be viewed on the video here, along with the Vatican's certificate of authenticity.

The real miracle here, of course, is that this is a peace gesture from an Italian parish to an Irish parish.

Chili · 12-28-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

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The Rev. Jeremiah J. Boland, administrator of the church, said on Friday that he is "not that interested" in carbon testing the items to see if they are from the beginning of the Christian Era.

They can be viewed on the video here, along with the Vatican's certificate of authenticity.

The real miracle here, of course, is that this is a peace gesture from an Italian parish to an Irish parish.

Yes, but not real gold I think.

MrMacSon · 12-28-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chili

Yes, but not real gold I think.

Unlikely to be real relics either

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The Rev. Jeremiah J. Boland, administrator of the church, said on Friday that he is "not that interested" in carbon testing the items to see if they are from the beginning of the Christian Era.

"The Vatican has its own process to determine the authenticity of things," Boland said. "I'm more concerned with it as an object of faith."

The manger relic has "more authenticity" since it was brought from the Holy Land to the Vatican in the 5th century, Boland said.

"One could argue how real the relics of Mary or Joseph are, but there were all sorts of objects over the centuries that have been venerated and are based on faith rather than on scientific explanation," he said.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...21228?irpc=932

mountainman · 12-29-2012, 12:38 AM

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The fragments, released by the Vatican in 1972, were a gift to the Holy Family Church from the Shrine of Our Lady of Pompeii, also in Chicago.

The Christian forgery mill grinds on - year after year, century after century.

sotto voce · 12-29-2012, 03:15 AM

Chicago. Isn't that in America?

Chili · 12-29-2012, 07:16 AM

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The fragments, released by the Vatican in 1972, were a gift to the Holy Family Church from the Shrine of Our Lady of Pompeii, also in Chicago.

The Christian forgery mill grinds on - year after year, century after century.

To befuddle the children in faith is a thousand times better than fornicating them with salvation recipes that they are forced to swallow to a become part of the family of God . . . and the Gutenberg yeast factory keeps kranking away.

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