DrewDiggler

Plus Nebuchadnezzar and Ezekiel are witnesses for the negative. Prophesy failed !
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Amaleq13

No point, really. I'm surprised you still take the time to read it.

spin

You are being so silly about this. You are clueless about Tyre's history and you won't read about it. I've shown you in the Amarna age that Tyre was the island and all you could do is quibble that Ushu must have been part of Tyre despite Tyre not having possession of it. I've shown you in the time of Hiram it was an island, though I think you've been forced to eat your hat about your refusal to accept the island's status. I've shown you that in the time of Ashurbanipal Tyre and Ushu were separate entities. The one constant factor in Tyre's ancient history was that it was the island... which sometimes had possessions on the mainland.

The situation is somewhat like Japan in the period leading up to WW2. It was the islands, but it had mainland possessions. You wouldn't think of Japan as its possessions in Korea or China. But that's the madness of your position: you'd see the island of Tyre as having the mainland as an integral part.



Unfortunately, Ushu was some kilometers south of Tyre. There was little on the mainland opposite the island in ancient times.

It's on the coast, so people will fish there. But let's look at your fishing village:



You can drop this fishing village crap.

Hare Krishna, hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Hare, hare.




spin

spin

There's the appeal of watching someone struggle to make a of himself. It's almost clinically interesting.

Bur then, Sugarhitman has at least now given up on trying to repudiate the fact that Tyre was an island and is now going with the notion that Tyre was not just the island. Whatever the case was, the prophecy has been fulfilled or at least partially and the rest will eventually be fulfilled.


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arnoldo

Have you ever read the entire book of Ezekiel? Another question, if Zekey saw that Nebby took almost two years to destroy Jerusalem don't you think it was foolish from Zekey to think only Nebby would destroy Tyre. I know you dismiss that Zekey would even consider that Alexander the Great would attack Tyre a priori.

arnoldo

Sorry, for a prophecy to fail to had to be written before the fact. Skeptic argue that "prophecy" is written after the fact disguised in language to make it appear prophetic. Maybe Ezekiel was written in the 2nd century and the writers didn't have accurate historical data like the writers of Daniel, right? :huh:

Johnny Skeptic

Message to arnoldo: What evidence do you have that God inspired Ezekiel to write the Tyre prophecy other than "the Bible says so," and that the prophecy has not been changed?

Johnny Skeptic

Message to arnoldo: It is interesting to note that you have continued to avoid my thread at http://iidb.infidels.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=236960 after you embarrassed yourself and took the next bus out of town.

arnoldo

What evidence do you have that Ezekiel was written after the fact perhaps in the 4th BC? Answer: none whatsoever. Besides Skeppies don't even understand the theology they are *attempting* to attack. Tyre is a type of a commerical superpower and a similar comerical superpower is mentioned in Revelations. I know you dismiss this concept a priori. A religous entity called "Mystery Babylon" is also mentioned in scriptures which is a type of ancient Babylon. Sorry, many prophecies in Scriptures are fulfilled along multiple point in time along the future.

sugarhitman

I remeber those letters which the king said he had to leave the mainland fleeing to the island where he had no water no place to bury the dead and no timber which showed that he was on the mainland also. There was a dispute between him and the king of Sidon...note there is no mention of a king USHU.... ever, that shows that it was not an independent city but was in fact a part of Tyre....in fact the island could not survive without it....as the King very well said. Hiram is credited as enlarging the island to 40 acres, imagine how small it was before he enlarged it. Some historians, has it that temples and the palace were on the island while most of the population lived in the mainland part of the city and the fact that the inhabitants of Tyre included both those in the mainland city and island shows that these are the same city....Menander didn't seperate the mainland city from the island....and neither does Ezekiel....Nebby is seen by him attacking the mainland city...which happened. "DOUBLE CITY" Google maps} you hear that spin D-O-U-B-L-E C-I-T-Y just because you seperate the mainlnad portion of the city....does not mean that Ezekiel did. God exists.....no matter how you delude yourself....He exist....and is watching.....:wave: