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"Secret Christians" in Church Tradition
Apparently, according to certain strands of church tradition, Gamaliel, a prominent 1st-century Pharisee who is mentioned in the Book of Acts and is considered an authority in the Talmud, was a secret Christian. This tradition derives from Acts 5:39, where he argues for sparing the lives of Jesus's disciples.
Likewise, Eusebius claims that Constantine's father, the Western emperor Constantius I, who took no part in the persecution of Christians under Diocletian, was a secret Christian. There seems to be a tendency here to follow the logic, "Any non-Christian who was nice to early Christians must have been a secret Christian." This would seem to result from an a priori demonization of all non-Christians, so that a non-Christian who showed compassion to Christians was simply inconceivable on a conceptual level. |
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Eusebius fraudulently claimed that the Emperor Philip the Arab was a christian.
Tertullian (who is more than likely just Eusebius) also fraudulently claimed that another Roman emperor ( I forget exactly which one) was also truly "a christian at heart". Quote:
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In fairness to Paul, if anyone padded his resume on that point, it wasn't he. Paul never mentions Gamaliel in his own writings.
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But, Paul will pad his own resume in the name of Jesus Christ. The ultimate padder. Galatians 1.11-12 Quote:
If it is one thing that is almost certain is that Paul did not get anything from a resurrected man. Paul really padded his resume or again "they padded" his resume using his name. The Pauline writings are all padding. "Paul" is the other name for "padding" in the Canon. Acts of the Apostles and the Pauline writings were used to pad the resume of the Church. |
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There were no 'Christians' in the first century. The Romans saw them as heretic Jews.
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