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Old 02-16-2008, 06:01 AM   #11
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I think that is does not logically follow that a lack of evidence for an Abraham equates with evidence that he did not exist. Why wouldn't that be an example of a fallacious argument from silence?
Because Abraham was alleged to be 137 years old when he had 6 more children?

Why should I believe that a 137 year old man existed and had 6 children, when there is no evidence of any such person ever living?
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Old 02-16-2008, 06:12 AM   #12
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There was no Jesus who existed before Abraham and helped the Israelites in the Exodus.
No, that's nowhere near the case.
Jesus is the Logos of hellenic philosophy, thus preexistant and immortal.
It guides the human soul into the rest (katapausis, nirvana) ,
i.e. desinvolvement from the corrupt existence in the flesh,
its passions and temptations.


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Old 02-16-2008, 06:24 AM   #13
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There was no Jesus who existed before Abraham and helped the Israelites in the Exodus.
No, that's nowhere near the case.
Jesus is the Logos of hellenic philosophy, thus preexistant and immortal.
It guides the human soul into the rest (katapausis, nirvana) ,
i.e. desinvolvement from the corrupt existence in the flesh,
its passions and temptations.


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It can be said that Jesus is a transition stage that identfies the immortal so we can become immortal.

I disagree that Jesus guides the human soul in that there is nothing human about the soul wherein we are eternal and can be it rest. For this we must vacate the lower house and move into the upper house or TOL where life is at.

. . . and yes, that is where the soul is at where Mary(Elizabeth hence) is the woman taken from us to now send Mary theotokos (thence) to be our bride so she can be our Voluminous Mother in bethrothal.
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I think that is does not logically follow that a lack of evidence for an Abraham equates with evidence that he did not exist. Why wouldn't that be an example of a fallacious argument from silence?
Because Abraham was alleged to be 137 years old when he had 6 more children?

Why should I believe that a 137 year old man existed and had 6 children, when there is no evidence of any such person ever living?
How were these years calculated?
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Because Abraham was alleged to be 137 years old when he had 6 more children?

Why should I believe that a 137 year old man existed and had 6 children, when there is no evidence of any such person ever living?
How were these years calculated?
Are you begging to redefine the term "year" [$NH]?


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No, I am asking a question that might have relevance to the issue being discussed.
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Old 02-16-2008, 06:33 AM   #17
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I think that is does not logically follow that a lack of evidence for an Abraham equates with evidence that he did not exist. Why wouldn't that be an example of a fallacious argument from silence?

Same goes for Wodin, The big giant head and the Giant pommegranet.
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I think that is does not logically follow that a lack of evidence for an Abraham equates with evidence that he did not exist. Why wouldn't that be an example of a fallacious argument from silence?

Same goes for Wodin, The big giant head and the Giant pommegranet.
I don't know what you are referring to here?
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This Web Site claims that Jesus is pure fiction. What do you think?
Hi Barbara, there is lots of burned out Christians that roam the airwaves with a vengence because Christianity of any flavor is lie at best. From there you choose you audience and tell us what you are like.

I would like to tell you here that there is nothing wrong with the flower that we call Barbara but there may be something wrong with the Barbara who doesn't know whether to bloom or not to bloom.

This is where Claus will tell you that Jesus is real and his existence is as real as ever because there is people blooming all over this world.
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This Web Site claims that Jesus is pure fiction. What do you think?
I agree that he never really existed, but my opinion of that Web site is pretty low. Just because I accept someone's conclusion doesn't mean I like the way they argue for it.
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