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Half-Life · 03-15-2006, 03:55 PM

So, I opened up the Bible today. (not for the first time atheists

)

In Genesis Chapter 2 I noticed something quite interesting to prove the Bible is not 100% God BREATHED.

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God HAD NOT CAUSED it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
http://www.carm.org/kjv/Gen/Gen_2.htm

This passage inidcates that God Himself is the reason why it rains. We all know the real reason why it rains. To the literalists, they have to ignore science and clouds and what not and tell science that God is the one who pours water out of the Heavens.

What do you guys think of this? As soon as I read that verse I thought of this website.

sismofyt · 03-15-2006, 04:14 PM

you lost me, what are you talking about... really?

David B · 03-15-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Half-Life

So, I opened up the Bible today. (not for the first time atheists

)

In Genesis Chapter 2 I noticed something quite interesting to prove the Bible is not 100% God BREATHED.

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God HAD NOT CAUSED it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
http://www.carm.org/kjv/Gen/Gen_2.htm

This passage inidcates that God Himself is the reason why it rains. We all know the real reason why it rains. To the literalists, they have to ignore science and clouds and what not and tell science that God is the one who pours water out of the Heavens.

What do you guys think of this? As soon as I read that verse I thought of this website.

Well done, Half Life.

There is another thread that demands your attention, though.

I'll go and find it, and edit in a link.

This one

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...13#post3244613

And I think there's another one as well

David B

Chris Weimer · 03-15-2006, 05:30 PM

Half-Life: Were you before this under the assumption that the bible was 100% "Godbreathed"? At first, let be honest for a second, I thought that you were a troll, a Christian with his fingers stuck in his ears ignoring responses and continuing with your posting. However, this is the second time you've surprised me, the other time where you merely posted a thanks after many had shredded a Christian falsehood that you questioned about.

I don't know if you will progress past the non-literalist phase into atheism. However, I do know hope you continue on your quest looking into bible and interrogating it critically. Perhaps you will apply this to the entire bible, and instead of going into it with the assumptions, make the assumptions afterwards.

But I can only hope.

best of luck,

Chris Weimer

Half-Life · 03-15-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Weimer

Half-Life: Were you before this under the assumption that the bible was 100% "Godbreathed"? At first, let be honest for a second, I thought that you were a troll, a Christian with his fingers stuck in his ears ignoring responses and continuing with your posting. However, this is the second time you've surprised me, the other time where you merely posted a thanks after many had shredded a Christian falsehood that you questioned about.

I don't know if you will progress past the non-literalist phase into atheism. However, I do know hope you continue on your quest looking into bible and interrogating it critically. Perhaps you will apply this to the entire bible, and instead of going into it with the assumptions, make the assumptions afterwards.

But I can only hope.

best of luck,

Chris Weimer

I do want to learn. It does get hard sometimes questioning things you were tasught your whole life is true.

Chris Weimer · 03-15-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Half-Life

I do want to learn. It does get hard sometimes questioning things you were tasught your whole life is true.

I agree. It's still hard sometimes even for me. And then you have to watch out for the other extreme - having no trust at all in anything. Hopefully, we can help you here.

J842P · 03-15-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Half-Life

I do want to learn. It does get hard sometimes questioning things you were tasught your whole life is true.

It's called cognitive dissonance.

ziffel · 03-15-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Half-Life

I do want to learn. It does get hard sometimes questioning things you were tasught your whole life is true.

A lot of us have been through that. I'm glad you want to learn.

Sheshbazzar · 03-15-2006, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Half-Life

So, I opened up the Bible today. (not for the first time atheists

)

In Genesis Chapter 2 I noticed something quite interesting to prove the Bible is not 100% God BREATHED.

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God HAD NOT CAUSED it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
http://www.carm.org/kjv/Gen/Gen_2.htm

This passage indicates that God Himself is the reason why it rains. We all know the real reason why it rains. To the literalists, they have to ignore science and clouds and what not and tell science that God is the one who pours water out of the Heavens.

What do you guys think of this? As soon as I read that verse I thought of this website.

Gen. 7:4
Ex. 9:18
Lev.26:4
Deut. 11:14, 17
Deut. 28:12, 24
1 Sam. 12:17-18
1 Kings 8:35-36
1 Kings 17:14
1 Kings 18:1
2 Chron. 6:27
2 Chron. 7:13
Job 5:8-10
Job 28:23-27
Job 38:24-28
Ps. 68:9
Ps. 105:32
Ps.135:7
Ps.147:8
Jer 5:21-24
Jer. 10:12-13
Jer. 51:15-16
Ez.38:22
Joel 2:23
Amos 4:7
Zech 10:1
Zech. 14:17-19
Matt. 5:45
Acts 14:17

I think that your post indicates that you aren't very familiar with the Bible.

Chris Weimer · 03-15-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

I think that your post indicates that you aren't very familiar with the Bible.

Au contraire. Your post indicates that you aren't very familiar with real life.

03-15-2006, 03:55 PM	#1
Half-Life Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place in the Northern Hemisphere of Planet Earth Posts: 1,250	Opening Up The Bible: Thinkng Outside The Box So, I opened up the Bible today. (not for the first time atheists ) In Genesis Chapter 2 I noticed something quite interesting to prove the Bible is not 100% God BREATHED. 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God HAD NOT CAUSED it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. http://www.carm.org/kjv/Gen/Gen_2.htm This passage inidcates that God Himself is the reason why it rains. We all know the real reason why it rains. To the literalists, they have to ignore science and clouds and what not and tell science that God is the one who pours water out of the Heavens. What do you guys think of this? As soon as I read that verse I thought of this website.

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Chris Weimer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: none Posts: 9,879	Half-Life: Were you before this under the assumption that the bible was 100% "Godbreathed"? At first, let be honest for a second, I thought that you were a troll, a Christian with his fingers stuck in his ears ignoring responses and continuing with your posting. However, this is the second time you've surprised me, the other time where you merely posted a thanks after many had shredded a Christian falsehood that you questioned about. I don't know if you will progress past the non-literalist phase into atheism. However, I do know hope you continue on your quest looking into bible and interrogating it critically. Perhaps you will apply this to the entire bible, and instead of going into it with the assumptions, make the assumptions afterwards. But I can only hope. best of luck, Chris Weimer

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