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Elijah · 06-06-2008, 08:41 AM

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A physical emanation that is particular to the individual.

. . . but universal to mankind and therefore has the power to speak to us all.
From death to death for those in heaven who have gained new life already and from life to life for purgatorians (Galileans there) who have not yet died to their first life.

He is speaking of themselves as apostles, he used “aroma” because he was comparing themselves to “A physical emanation that is particular to the individual.”

They are preaching a message of eternal life.

Clivedurdle · 06-06-2008, 12:38 PM

I would almost guarantee pentecostals like AOG or FGBMA are involved with this military lot - remember your former Attorney General? He would have been well into this stuff, and actually Bush if asked might comment that it smellled right to go into Iraq.

Clivedurdle · 06-06-2008, 12:41 PM

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Sense of smell 'underestimated'

The red line shows an attempt to follow the straight scent trail

The sensitivity of the human sense of smell has been significantly underestimated, a study suggests. US research had confounded the established belief that people have a poorer sense of smell than animals.
The work, published in the journal Nature Neuroscience, asked people to follow scents on the ground, as a dog would do, and found they were as good.
A UK expert said the findings were "intriguing" and would aid better understanding of the sense.

It is not the second class system that has been the traditional assumption

Dr Peter Brennan, University of Bristol

The researchers from University of California Berkley laid scent trails, including one of chocolate essential oil, in a grassy field, and asked 32 people to find the 10 metre trail and track it to the end.
Those who took part were blindfolded and wore thick gloves and earplugs to force them to rely exclusively on smell.
Two thirds were able to follow the scent.
And while they remained slower than the animals at tracking scents, their performance improved over time.
In other tests, it was found that humans required both nostrils to be working to be able to track scents.
'Highly developed'
Writing in Nature Neuroscience, the researchers led by Dr Noam Sobel showed the human sense of smell was more powerful than previously believed and that, with training, humans might be capable of tasks which had been thought to be the exclusive province of non-human animals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6183379.stm

I wondr if religion is the brain's way of putting our sense of smell into words.

the_cave · 06-06-2008, 01:00 PM

Um, sorry to cut the scintillating conversation short, but I'm gonna guess Paul is just talking about incense used in religious processions. Hey, what do I know.

Chili · 06-06-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Elijah

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Originally Posted by Chili

. . . but universal to mankind and therefore has the power to speak to us all.
From death to death for those in heaven who have gained new life already and from life to life for purgatorians (Galileans there) who have not yet died to their first life.

He is speaking of themselves as apostles, he used “aroma” because he was comparing themselves to “A physical emanation that is particular to the individual.”

They are preaching a message of eternal life.

Of course it is their own flavor because their are no conventional words for non-conventional things (knowledge here) and they were not peddling the written word of God, yet they were speaking the word of God and providing nourishment for both the living and the dying as they needed it.

Jeffrey Gibson · 06-06-2008, 02:29 PM

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[amazon=0664221173]Evodia is also the name of one of Paul's collaborators.

Ummm ... in Greek the name Evodia is Εὐοδία (epislon upsilon omicron delta iota alpha. The Greek word for "aroma" is spelled epsilon upsilon OMEGA delta iota alpha (εὐωδία). There's no "also" about the name.

Jeffrey

Elijah · 06-06-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chili

Of course it is their own flavor because their are no conventional words for non-conventional things (knowledge here) and they were not peddling the written word of God, yet they were speaking the word of God and providing nourishment for both the living and the dying as they needed it.

I'm not sure I'm exactly following you here, we may be in agreement just confused. They were just messengers of Christ delivering the good news. I don't see them as spreading knowledge as much as conviction, (Sign of Jonah) because none of the early Christians really seemed to have a handle on what Jesus was trying to do.

Toto · 06-06-2008, 03:20 PM

I had one reference that derived Euodia from "sweet smell."

But see this: Phil 4:2 (the fonts did not copy.)

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Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus
euwdian parakalw ...

Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
euodian parakalw ...

Byzantine Majority
euodian parakalw ...

Alexandrian
euodian parakalw ...

Hort and Westcott
euodian parakalw ...

Jeffrey Gibson · 06-06-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

I had one reference that derived Euodia from "sweet smell."

But see this: Phil 4:2 (the fonts did not copy.)

Quote:

Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus
euwdian parakalw ...

Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
euodian parakalw ...

Byzantine Majority
euodian parakalw ...

Alexandrian
euodian parakalw ...

Hort and Westcott
euodian parakalw ...

All of which have Εὐοδία not εὐωδία and the subsequent text reproduced on the lined page has nothing to do with the matter at hand, for, so far as I can see, neither the name Εὐοδία nor the word εὐωδία is used within it.

What is it you are trying to show me?

Jeffrey

Toto · 06-06-2008, 06:33 PM

The 1550 Textus Receptus has the name Εὐωδία while the other versions have Εὐοδία. But it's not important. Forget it.

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06-06-2008, 12:38 PM	#12
Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	I would almost guarantee pentecostals like AOG or FGBMA are involved with this military lot - remember your former Attorney General? He would have been well into this stuff, and actually Bush if asked might comment that it smellled right to go into Iraq.

06-06-2008, 01:00 PM	#14
the_cave Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 1,443	Um, sorry to cut the scintillating conversation short, but I'm gonna guess Paul is just talking about incense used in religious processions. Hey, what do I know.

06-06-2008, 06:33 PM	#20
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	The 1550 Textus Receptus has the name Εὐωδία while the other versions have Εὐοδία. But it's not important. Forget it.

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