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outhouse · 02-05-2013, 10:27 AM

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No

what your stating applies to the uneducated internet bloggers posting hypothesis they know little about. That is a severe appeal to ignorance. Fail.

Your OP cites a philosophical definition.

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This is a term I see mythers and apologist commonly perverting and abusing from a a point of ignorance.

I think these definitions need to be posted for those who wish to abuse said phrase.

http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/authority.html

In case you misunderstand this forum is primarily concerned with appeals to authority in the field of ancient history and not philosophy.

Unlike the field of philosophy the field of history requires its practitioners to address items of historical evidence.

If you do not understand this primary requirement you are merely preaching to the philosophical choir.

STOP do not pass go, do not colect 200 dollars. your hobby horse is dead, and its not getting any further then a forum where nonsesne can be posted.

STOP appealing to ignorance.

mountainman · 02-05-2013, 09:42 PM

An appeal to the game of monopoly is off topic.

outhouse · 02-07-2013, 10:22 AM

You cannot improve this forum, if you have to work around authorites opinions on this subject to promote your own hobby horse.

You cannot discount the evidence because it goes against your hobby horse.

If you do discount evidence, you should atleast try and explain why, instead of Nuh uh, or just attacking the current status quo, not offering a replacement hypothesis that fits the evidence.

Juma · 02-10-2013, 09:53 AM

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And it takes someone knowledgeable [authority] to deal with evidence.

No, it doesnt. If you cannot show every step of the argument, then the argument fails.
I dont say that you should be ale to perform the steps, you can point to such an explanation, but what you cannot do is to say: "the great authority on X, mr Y, said so"

outhouse · 02-10-2013, 10:40 PM

If we went with your philosophy, we might as well quit going to school to learn anything.

If you just want to throw knowledge out the window thats fine, I wont, and credible scholars dont either.

Jaybees · 02-11-2013, 03:13 PM

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And it takes someone knowledgeable [authority] to deal with evidence.

Fair enough. Would you guide me to some knowledgeable authority to fill me in on God's qualities?

Thanks.

Juma · 02-11-2013, 03:16 PM

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If we went with your philosophy, we might as well quit going to school to learn anything.

If you just want to throw knowledge out the window thats fine, I wont, and credible scholars dont either.

School has nothing to do with this! Eduction an d argumentationis two very different things!

outhouse · 02-11-2013, 03:27 PM

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And it takes someone knowledgeable [authority] to deal with evidence.

Fair enough. Would you guide me to some knowledgeable authority to fill me in on God's qualities?

Thanks.

There is no god, so you will only have to deal with those that study cultural anthropology of the people who created and defined the subject at hand.

What would you like to know. I know enough about this subject to fill you in.

outhouse · 02-11-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Juma

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Originally Posted by outhouse

If we went with your philosophy, we might as well quit going to school to learn anything.

If you just want to throw knowledge out the window thats fine, I wont, and credible scholars dont either.

School has nothing to do with this! Eduction an d argumentationis two very different things!

Wrong again.

outhouse · 02-11-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaybees

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Originally Posted by outhouse

And it takes someone knowledgeable [authority] to deal with evidence.

Fair enough. Would you guide me to some knowledgeable authority to fill me in on God's qualities?

Thanks.

Karen Armstrong is who has influenced me.

Not everything is 100% but she rounds the topic out very nicely in a great general overview in easy to understand language.

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02-05-2013, 09:42 PM	#132
mountainman Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Falls Creek, Oz. Posts: 11,192	An appeal to the game of monopoly is off topic.

02-07-2013, 10:22 AM	#133
outhouse Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Auburn ca Posts: 4,269	You cannot improve this forum, if you have to work around authorites opinions on this subject to promote your own hobby horse. You cannot discount the evidence because it goes against your hobby horse. If you do discount evidence, you should atleast try and explain why, instead of Nuh uh, or just attacking the current status quo, not offering a replacement hypothesis that fits the evidence.

02-10-2013, 10:40 PM	#135
outhouse Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Auburn ca Posts: 4,269	If we went with your philosophy, we might as well quit going to school to learn anything. If you just want to throw knowledge out the window thats fine, I wont, and credible scholars dont either.

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