Lanakila

Not sure what kind of Christian you are, (there are many different kinds) but I was a fundamental Baptist. I am not angry at God though. I don't believe he exists at all. The story of Annanias and Sapphira is although scary, not as scary as stories in the OT where God destroyed whole towns for sexual immorality, and other things. In the story of Noah he destroyed the whole world, because they were only evil continually, and he was sorry that he had made man. That sounds like a human invented God to me and many others, and I cannot justify his actions, or even tolerate them any longer.

Amos

I think you have this backwards. If hell was hell it was an after-thought to dump garbage into it . . . probably because the fire was already there.

Love Fountain

Hi Lanakila,

The first time the word God is used in Genesis is the word Elohim. Elohim is plural, it means angels, judges, magistrates, gods(godesses) and with the definite article is God. So to say God in singular for each time it is used in the text without being sure if it is God, gods, angels, magistrates or judges really must be studied and learned. Yet even if you go to all the best theological schools in the world you will never be able to tell them apart until you have been given a change of heart by the Father of love so that you can rightly divide the word of truth. For it is truth that within the Bible there are the dead and in truth are the living yet if a person cannot tell them apart they will be misconstrued as each other.

I belong to Ekklesia it is the word that is mistranslated as "church" in the Bible that means an assembly of called out ones. I didn't grow up in religion and I don't believe in religion for I believe all religions are manmade to control and separate people. I believe in reality and the setting free of the heart that so many try to place in bondage. Ekklesia is not in a building made with mans hands it is in the heart that truly believes in loving eath other as themselves as life has always been meant to be.

To say that the Father of love doesn't exist is to give an absolute in an existence where there is no absolutes. Thereby in doing so one makes themselves the absolute. This seems totally illogical to me, perhaps someone can enlighten me further about this thought. Yet I see free thinkers and agnostics who question and realize there are no absolutes in this existence that remain within logic as I am understanding it to be. In a time when so many free thinkers are awakening to the reality of being cattle led around it amazes me still that the absolute thought still exists, especially with all the corrections to the errors of mankind thoughts that have rapidly progressed within recent years. Yet who am I but a mere person on this illusion of protons, neutrons and electrons thinking all this is real and the pain that I feel verifies this as I look at the confusion of all those who remain in the hands of dictations of greed and power amongst other things that mankind does. So nevetheless may you have a great day and know there are some out here who will not condemn you for your thoughts and choices because I am here to give you love to the best my heart will yield in hope of a better day when pain and affliction subside and reality can then progress the way it has always been intended, IN LOVE.

Sincerely,
Love Fountain

Love Fountain

Sorry Amos,

Your thought doesn't make sense to me, there were no such things as a letter "E" in the original Hebrew the texts were written in. Yet it really doesn't matter to me because the end is the beginning and beginning is the end. Backwards or forwards I know where things will be. Don't believe me though or any man or woman because indeed yes even you shall see the way this illusion really was to be when death and deception are put away and all are allowed to be free. Not only was there no "E" there is neither any letter of "I's".

Thank you for your reply.

Happy New Year,
Love Fountain

mike_decock

To say that the Father of love does exist is to give an absolute in an existence where there is no absolutes. Thereby in doing so you make yourself the absolute. This seems totally illogical to me, perhaps you can enlighten me further about this thought.

-Mike...

Lanakila

Exactly Mike. I am a weak atheist. I don't believe God exists, but that doesn't discount the possiblity. Bible verses aren't gonna convince me anymore, and neither is someone telling me about God's love. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

Amos

That's OK Fountain of Love. It is just that you are the one who called it "hell" in this line: "Hell in the OT was a garbage dump outside of the city where they burned garbage and dumped children killed in child sacrifice during Molech worship.

Prompted by that I was just thinking about the perpetual fire there.

Love Fountain

Hi Mike,

Polarity indeed! The pull and those between. Yet one more thought of my way or the highway and the highway or my way, either way the same thought. Perhaps the thought would've been bought if only there had been those who fought? Yet why would they fight for something forgot if only to sit upon my little thought all alone in the hot. Indeed had I said my way or the highway we would both be enlightened and wouldn't have to continue this thought in polarity of naught yet then again is ones thoughts and anothers are theirs. So let us rejoice in the subject of thought and not get caught in any fog of the plot. For the plot is a lot whether we play or not. Enjoy your day for it is yours to have thought and I am grateful for your participation in the polarity of life as we recollet upon where we have been and those who have seen and remember the one thing most important whether my Father exists or not is totally within my heart and in my thought and if it is received in your thought or in your heart then we shall begin to watch the sun part together and then so many will no longer be set at naught as the illusion of lifes prism of light will reflect the only thing that matters in life which is love. Have a lovely day and thank you for your reply.

Happy New Year,
Love Fountain

offa

Ananias was Simon Magus and Sapphira was Helen (his mistress). Their deaths were spiritual and they were banned from the budding Church. Simon liked the idea of laying on hands and getting paid for it, but, he wanted to keep all the money (Simony).

mike_decock

I was simply demonstrating that your logic for dismissing atheism is just as applicable to theism. If you care to defend your logic rather than playing word games, I'd be happy to discuss it further with you.

-Mike...