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WishboneDawn · 12-08-2006, 03:13 AM

I've noticed quite a few athiests who don't discount it around here. Granted, they don't read it with the God hangup I do but they find it interesting and approach it with a sense of criticism and study.

Sarpedon · 12-08-2006, 07:26 AM

Lets see:

Anonymous authors for the most part.

Uncertain authorship in many other parts.

Uncertain dates of composition (Many prophesies are thought to have been written after the fact, like Dante did in the Inferno)

Compiled by committee, with inclusions judged by doctrinal and political qualifications, rather than by authenticity.

It says bats are birds.

It says the world is flat.

It says the sky is solid.

Donkeys can talk, people can fly, and a man named jesus lives in the sky!

By the way, this would go better in BC&H, or whatever they're calling it now.

Heidi Guedel · 12-08-2006, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by windsofchange

Cheeses Christ!

Now that's a religion you can sink your teeth into.

And didn't His mother's picture mysteriously appear on an open-face toasted cheeze sandwich recently, and command a high price on e-bay?????

Malachi151 · 12-08-2006, 08:18 AM

Why do Christians discount the Koran?

gstafleu · 12-08-2006, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by suttsteve

Besides the fact that is has around 420 contradictions

Actually, according to Bart Ehrman (Misquoting Jesus) there are more inconsistencies in the bible then there are words. Now "inconsistency" here means a mismatch between two ancient manuscripts. This can be as simple as a spelling mistake or a change in word order, but it can go up to the copyists inserting their favorite bit of theology!

So, depending on how one defines "contradictions" your number of 420 may be on the low side!

Gerard Stafleu

Jack the Bodiless · 12-08-2006, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostdog

A very simple question with a very simple answer. Let me explain it in this way. You Christian folk claim the bible is the direct word of god. Well I just wrote this on a piece of paper "And so the great Lord of Cheese descended from the heavens and all of the seven seas turned to molten mozerella. So was the coming of the end of the world". Now how do you know a god didn't just make me write it? Do you see what I'm trying to say?

Why should we imagine a god made you write it? We'd only have your word for that.

On the other hand, if the piece of paper itself said that a god inspired it... well, of course that would be an entirely different scenario.

Though, for the analogy to be complete, such a claim should have problems similar to the Biblical equivalent. How about an ambiguous sentence in Sanskrit which might be interpreted as implying that the words of some sentient dairy products might be of special merit? That'd clinch it.

windsofchange · 12-08-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Heidi Guedel

And didn't His mother's picture mysteriously appear on an open-face toasted cheeze sandwich recently, and command a high price on e-bay?????

Gouda edamn, I think you're right!

SectarianTurmoil · 12-08-2006, 01:00 PM

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Why do atheists discount the bible?

Cos we've got piles of unsold copies, and a diminishing pool of suckers to sell them to.

B Cereus · 12-08-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by windsofchange

Gouda edamn, I think you're right!

And let's not forget this seasonal favorite, "A whey in a manger..."

NZSkep · 12-08-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Delia

"I think He said, Blessed are the Cheesemakers." (Monty Python's Life of Brian)

WMD

well thats just a metaphor. he is actually referring to any manufacturers of dairy products

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12-08-2006, 03:13 AM	#11
WishboneDawn Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 4,287	I've noticed quite a few athiests who don't discount it around here. Granted, they don't read it with the God hangup I do but they find it interesting and approach it with a sense of criticism and study.

12-08-2006, 07:26 AM	#12
Sarpedon Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Minnesota, the least controversial state in the le Posts: 8,446	Lets see: Anonymous authors for the most part. Uncertain authorship in many other parts. Uncertain dates of composition (Many prophesies are thought to have been written after the fact, like Dante did in the Inferno) Compiled by committee, with inclusions judged by doctrinal and political qualifications, rather than by authenticity. It says bats are birds. It says the world is flat. It says the sky is solid. Donkeys can talk, people can fly, and a man named jesus lives in the sky! By the way, this would go better in BC&H, or whatever they're calling it now.

12-08-2006, 08:18 AM	#14
Malachi151 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 8,674	Why do Christians discount the Koran?

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