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Old 11-27-2005, 09:03 AM   #121
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Bible John, I suspect my name is near the top of the list of people that you think hate you, but you're wrong. I don't hate you.

So, please believe me when I tell you that jumping right into another debate is not a good idea. The same factors that caused you to forfeit the previous debate are likely to cause you to forfeit the next one. At the very least, take some time off before repeating your mistake.


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Put your money in your mouth. I already told you that I have been having some issues and 2 weeks would be enough time. Do you still not believe me? Why do you have eyes that fail to see and ears that fail to hear?

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Old 11-27-2005, 09:07 AM   #122
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Yep.

Go for it...
I am on vacation know, but let me return back to home out of the SF Bay Area (unfortunately) and wait till I get to my ibook on a broadband connection and I will post by Tuesday I promise you.

I've mentioned it before but many here have failed to hear that 2 weeks was all I needed.


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Old 11-27-2005, 09:11 AM   #123
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Yep, it's vintage Gastrich. However, "Bible John" has taken his cues from Gastrich. Even his public prayers in Usenet employed Gastrich's as something of a template.
I am not Gastrich. Jason has given me ideas thats all. Me and Jason disagree on our views on the apostolic sign gifts, and with some aspects of ministry philosophy. As far as I am concerned I am a Fundementalist and Jason is in between a fundementalist and a evangelical. Jason also might have minor to moderate charismatic roots in Calvary Chapel and the SBC.

Also Jason is an apologist and I am a bible teacher.

If you are so bright then you can understand the differences. They certainly seperate the 2 majors in school. Obviously the doctors that run bible schools understand the differences.

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Old 11-27-2005, 09:16 AM   #124
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And why didn't you engage my comments in the other peanut gallery thread about homosexuality? I asked you if you had any practical arguments against homosexuality. You said that you did, and I asked what they were, but you never replied. Why was that? Why do you believe that the Bible writers spoke for God regarding homosexuality and not for themselves?
I have what the bible teaches. But for you since you do not view the bible has authority what I say will go upon deaf ears. The bible writers spoke for God since it is written all throughout the bible that they did. 2 Tim 3:16 is one verse that claims all scripture is given by inspiritation of God. Also in Joshua, Revelation among other places does it state that God divinly inspired the authors to write these books.

But for you there is only one that can save you. Repent and turn to the light while there is yet time.


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Old 11-27-2005, 09:21 AM   #125
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I doubt very much that the majority of IIDB readers post to Usenet. I'm one of the only Usenet users here.

I do not see why a group needs someone to preach or teach. People should be studying on their own. Is the Spirit no longer good enough?
Why dont you visit free.christians and observe with your own eyes the Atheist and cult takeover there?

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Old 11-27-2005, 09:37 AM   #126
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I've mentioned it before but many here have failed to hear that 2 weeks was all I needed.
I think it's not that people aren't hearing [reading] you, but that they don't believe you. You could mostly remedy this by continuing the debate.

Ask Pervy and the moderators if you can continue the formal debate with a two week interval. You've already commited to producing your Round 3 posting within a two week deadline. Since there's really only one more substantial round after that, you might well make it. I suspect Pervy would be game, and I see little reason for the moderators to object.

Even if the moderators don't want to accomodate you, you can continue the debate in an informal way here, in this peanut gallery. Pervy has already made an appearance. So, go ahead, make some effort to finish what you started. It's the only way that I can see for you to combat the notion that you've been wilted by Pervy's scholarship.
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Old 11-27-2005, 09:46 AM   #127
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I am not Gastrich. Jason has given me ideas thats all.
It's worse than that. You've copied him and his tactics.

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Me and Jason disagree on our views on the apostolic sign gifts, and with some aspects of ministry philosophy. As far as I am concerned I am a Fundementalist and Jason is in between a fundementalist and a evangelical. Jason also might have minor to moderate charismatic roots in Calvary Chapel and the SBC.

Also Jason is an apologist and I am a bible teacher.
Actually, he presumes to be an "apologist" and you presume to be a "bible teacher." Neither of you has demontrated any competence in these areas, however.

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If you are so bright then you can understand the differences. They certainly seperate the 2 majors in school.
They are also irrelevant and diversionary to my point. I proved that you use Gastrich's prayers as a template of sorts, and you clearly envy the attention he gets.

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Obviously the doctors that run bible schools understand the differences.
Like "Doctor" Gastrich and "Doctor" Tio...or the other "doctors" who got "doctorates" from schools that don't challenge them to think?

And I should be impressed...why...?
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Old 11-27-2005, 09:48 AM   #128
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I am on vacation know...
Weren't you also on vacation, playing video games and watching movies, when your previous entry in the formal debate was due? And were you on vacation, playing video games and watching movies, when the extension grace period came and went?
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Old 11-27-2005, 09:49 AM   #129
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I've mentioned it before but many here have failed to hear that 2 weeks was all I needed.
Maybe it's just that we're not buying your boasting, followed by your excuses and your delaying tactics.
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Old 11-27-2005, 09:50 AM   #130
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Put your money in your mouth.
I'd rather not. Most money doesn't taste very good.

What are you trying to say here? The only thing I can figure is you're trying to say "Put your money where your mouth is", which would be a way of saying that you're challenging me to a debate. Is that what you're trying to do? If so, I'm sorry, but I have no interest in debating this subject and I have no interest in debating you.



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I already told you that I have been having some issues and 2 weeks would be enough time. Do you still not believe me?
No. Why should I? In three rounds, you were late three times. As best I can tell, your (two) posts were written at the last minute. The last minute of a two week period is no longer than the last minute of a one week period.


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Why do you have eyes that fail to see and ears that fail to hear?
My eyes and ears work just fine. That's why I believe that the reality does not match your claims. Go ahead and get right back in another debate if you really want to. I suspect that the same factors that caused you to abandon this debate will cause you to abandon the next. So, I really think you should take a break for at least a few months, follow other debates, contribute to the peanut gallery and seriously contemplate whether or not you're ready for another try. But, if you insist on trying to prove me wrong, I can't stop you (and wouldn't if I could). Good luck.


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