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KnightWhoSaysNi · 10-23-2005, 09:49 PM

This thread has been set up to provide a Peanut Gallery for a FORMAL DEBATE between Pervy and Bible John on the following resolution:

"Resolved: The Bible does not strongly condemn homosexuality."

Pervy will affirm and Bible John will oppose. The debate will have 5 rounds and posts will be submitted concurrently.

We ask that the formal debate participants refrain from posting in the Peanut Gallery until after the debate is over.

Enjoy the debate!

- NS, FD Moderator

Chris Weimer · 10-23-2005, 09:58 PM

I can hardly wait. I've been anxiously awaiting for this debate to happen since I saw the proposal a while back. Hopefully this can settle some old issues once and for all (but I highly doubt it). Best of luck to the both of them.

Nice Squirrel · 10-24-2005, 08:56 AM

Good luck.

GrandpaMithras · 10-24-2005, 04:36 PM

When does the debate start?

Bogie · 11-01-2005, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Weimer

I can hardly wait. I've been anxiously awaiting for this debate to happen since I saw the proposal a while back. Hopefully this can settle some old issues once and for all (but I highly doubt it). Best of luck to the both of them.

I'm afraid you'll most likely have to wait for another time. "Bible John" is simply a Gastrich wanna-be...if such abyssmal ambitions were possible.

bogie

Chris Weimer · 11-01-2005, 04:30 PM

Oh, that is unfortunate. I was hoping for something a tad on the scholarly side.

SonOfFred · 11-02-2005, 12:37 PM

Nope, you won't get much scholarship from Bible John. If you want to get an idea about that, check out his antics in the free.christians newsgroup:

http://groups.google.com/group/free.christians?lnk=li

There is something I don't quite understand, though. Nightshade posted a message in the debate thread telling us that Bible John needed an extension to post his concurrent opening statement. Apparently, something has come up which, of course, happens to all of us from time to time. But you see, I think that John forgot all about this debate because, a day or so before that, I reminded John that his opening statement was due.

Nightshade posted the extension on the 30th. But here's another interesting thing. "Bible John" is and has been posting heavily in free.christians and elsewhere. He posted to 8 threads on the 29th of October, 6 on the 30th, 10 on the 31st, 5 on 1 November, and 5, so far, today. Those are just the threads. He's posted multiple articles in several of those threads, and that's just under his "Bible John" sign-on name. As "Yogi the Bear," he's posted in 7 threads from 30 October through 1 November.

I guess I'm wondering what could have come up that would have allowed him to post so much in Usenet, but not keep his debate commitment here.

Bogie · 11-04-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SonOfFred

Nope, you won't get much scholarship from Bible John. If you want to get an idea about that...

More to the point, we won't get a single original idea, thought, or personal summation of the ideas/thoughts of others.

If John posts anything at all, it will likely be blocks of copied text (probably without proper credit given), and incoherent ramblings chock full of poor spelling and baffling grammar.

Somebody here once wrote that Jason Gastrich is "The Clouseau of Apologetics". In that vein, John Wolf is "The Shemp Howard of Biblical Scholarship".

SonOfFred · 11-04-2005, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie

More to the point, we won't get a single original idea, thought, or personal summation of the ideas/thoughts of others.

If John posts anything at all, it will likely be blocks of copied text (probably without proper credit given), and incoherent ramblings chock full of poor spelling and baffling grammar.

Somebody here once wrote that Jason Gastrich is "The Clouseau of Apologetics". In that vein, John Wolf is "The Shemp Howard of Biblical Scholarship".

I agree. In fact, the observation generally has been that "Bible John" copies (poorly) even Gastrich's public prayers, and posts lots of material written by others. The last item of original writing that he posted--even asking for editorial corrections--was pretty roundly panned.

David Vestal · 11-05-2005, 06:01 AM

Bible John has posted. I think anyone who's run across the free.christians usenet group will not be surprised at how poor his post is, while anyone who hasn't will be shocked.

Funniest sentence: "The Liberal Christian side (another word for unbelievers) mostly seems to accept homosexuality as well as many other sins."

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KnightWhoSaysNi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 2,767	PEANUT GALLERY: Pervy vs. Bible John - Does the Bible strongly condemn homosexuality? This thread has been set up to provide a Peanut Gallery for a FORMAL DEBATE between Pervy and Bible John on the following resolution: "Resolved: The Bible does not strongly condemn homosexuality." Pervy will affirm and Bible John will oppose. The debate will have 5 rounds and posts will be submitted concurrently. We ask that the formal debate participants refrain from posting in the Peanut Gallery until after the debate is over. Enjoy the debate! - NS, FD Moderator

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10-23-2005, 09:58 PM	#2
Chris Weimer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: none Posts: 9,879	I can hardly wait. I've been anxiously awaiting for this debate to happen since I saw the proposal a while back. Hopefully this can settle some old issues once and for all (but I highly doubt it). Best of luck to the both of them.

10-24-2005, 08:56 AM	#3
Nice Squirrel Contributor Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Death Panel District 9 Posts: 20,921	Good luck.

10-24-2005, 04:36 PM	#4
GrandpaMithras Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,781	When does the debate start?

11-01-2005, 04:30 PM	#6
Chris Weimer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: none Posts: 9,879	Oh, that is unfortunate. I was hoping for something a tad on the scholarly side.

11-02-2005, 12:37 PM	#7
SonOfFred Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: El Cajon, CA Posts: 139	Nope, you won't get much scholarship from Bible John. If you want to get an idea about that, check out his antics in the free.christians newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/free.christians?lnk=li There is something I don't quite understand, though. Nightshade posted a message in the debate thread telling us that Bible John needed an extension to post his concurrent opening statement. Apparently, something has come up which, of course, happens to all of us from time to time. But you see, I think that John forgot all about this debate because, a day or so before that, I reminded John that his opening statement was due. Nightshade posted the extension on the 30th. But here's another interesting thing. "Bible John" is and has been posting heavily in free.christians and elsewhere. He posted to 8 threads on the 29th of October, 6 on the 30th, 10 on the 31st, 5 on 1 November, and 5, so far, today. Those are just the threads. He's posted multiple articles in several of those threads, and that's just under his "Bible John" sign-on name. As "Yogi the Bear," he's posted in 7 threads from 30 October through 1 November. I guess I'm wondering what could have come up that would have allowed him to post so much in Usenet, but not keep his debate commitment here.

11-05-2005, 06:01 AM	#10
David Vestal Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: High Point, NC, USA Posts: 1,506	Bible John has posted. I think anyone who's run across the free.christians usenet group will not be surprised at how poor his post is, while anyone who hasn't will be shocked. Funniest sentence: "The Liberal Christian side (another word for unbelievers) mostly seems to accept homosexuality as well as many other sins."

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