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aa5874 · 06-04-2006, 06:56 PM

Matthew, Mark, luke and John also contradicted each other.

one allegiance · 06-04-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aa5874

Matthew, Mark, luke and John also contradicted each other.

Nope. Go to page two of this thread, I answered most of the seemingly contradictory questions posted by javaman. Most of the time you will find that people, especially atheist, will try and take things out of context to make contradictions. All you have to do is read the text for yourself...They aren't contradictory.

Biff the unclean · 06-04-2006, 07:22 PM

When Jesus left John the Baptist did he go to the desert for forty days to be tempted by the devil or did he go with his mom to a wedding that was short of wine? Answer, both...just depends on which gospel you read

fromdownunder · 06-04-2006, 07:27 PM

one allegiance, who is Joseph's father? Jacob (Matthew 1:13) or Heli (Luke 3:23)

Norm

Diogenes the Cynic · 06-04-2006, 07:36 PM

Was Jesus born during the reign of Herod the Great or during the Census of Quirinius?

Who paid for the potter's field?

What were Jesus' last words on the cross?

How many of each animal did Noah take on the ark?

Who killed Goliath?

How long was Jesus in the tomb?

one allegiance · 06-04-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Biff the unclean

When Jesus left John the Baptist did he go to the desert for forty days to be tempted by the devil or did he go with his mom to a wedding that was short of wine? Answer, both...just depends on which gospel you read

Nope, another misconception. The wedding was before he went up to the mountain. The wedding just was metioned in Matthew, it is in no way contradictory.

one allegiance · 06-04-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fromdownunder

one allegiance, who is Joseph's father? Jacob (Matthew 1:13) or Heli (Luke 3:23)

Norm

well, I guess if you want to pick out geneology mistakes

http://www.duncanproductions.com/SBC...e_of_jesus.htm

see if that clears anything up. If not I will be happy to explain.

RGD · 06-04-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by one allegiance

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/NATURE/....ap/index.html
http://www.layevangelism.com/advtxbk...10/sec10-5.htm
http://www.trussel.com/prehist/news165.htm

...thats enought for now.

http://www.tentmaker.org/WAR/HasNoahsArkBeenFound1.html
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahs-ark-07.htm

hmm...So your saying you would pick and choose what is historical out of the bible...seems illogical.

Nice...

Allegiance, I have a question for you: why do you consider a link to a possible local flood in the Black Sea any kind of evidence for a world-wide flood? Did you actually read the citations?

RGD · 06-04-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by one allegiance

Nope. Go to page two of this thread, I answered most of the seemingly contradictory questions posted by javaman. Most of the time you will find that people, especially atheist, will try and take things out of context to make contradictions. All you have to do is read the text for yourself...They aren't contradictory.

Actually what you did was pick and choose from the Bible in order to try to resolve the very real discrepancies.

Since you were the one who seemed to find picking and choosing from the Bible wrong, then I'm afraid that your're now saying that the Bible is just like any ancient text: error-ridden and only occasionally useful.

Biff the unclean · 06-04-2006, 07:55 PM

What a faker you are. The wedding isn’t in Matthew at all. It’s John 2: 1-11. And Jesus doesn’t go into the wilderness in John.
No wonder you don’t think the bible is a mess of contradictions, you don’t read it.

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06-04-2006, 06:56 PM	#81
aa5874 Contributor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: the fringe of the caribbean Posts: 18,988	Matthew, Mark, luke and John also contradicted each other.

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Biff the unclean Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: an inaccessible island fortress Posts: 10,638	When Jesus left John the Baptist did he go to the desert for forty days to be tempted by the devil or did he go with his mom to a wedding that was short of wine? Answer, both...just depends on which gospel you read

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fromdownunder Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Lara, Victoria, Australia Posts: 2,780	one allegiance, who is Joseph's father? Jacob (Matthew 1:13) or Heli (Luke 3:23) Norm

06-04-2006, 07:36 PM	#85
Diogenes the Cynic Moderator - Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota Posts: 4,639	Was Jesus born during the reign of Herod the Great or during the Census of Quirinius? Who paid for the potter's field? What were Jesus' last words on the cross? How many of each animal did Noah take on the ark? Who killed Goliath? How long was Jesus in the tomb?

06-04-2006, 07:55 PM	#90
Biff the unclean Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: an inaccessible island fortress Posts: 10,638	What a faker you are. The wedding isn’t in Matthew at all. It’s John 2: 1-11. And Jesus doesn’t go into the wilderness in John. No wonder you don’t think the bible is a mess of contradictions, you don’t read it.

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