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Old 01-31-2005, 07:47 AM   #1
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The liberation of Barabbas was the reward of honoring the will of the Jews that convicted the Jewish identity that once upon a time had usurped the identity of a Roman citizen.
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Jesus is presented as a popular figure in Galilee which is the scene of almost all the reported miracles (including all those mentioned above).

A cheering crowd of pilgrims coming to Jerusalem (plausibly from Galilee) escort him into the city.

None of this necessarily indicates any great popularity within Jerusalem itself.

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Jerusalem was the conscious mind with the New Jerusalem being the New mind wherein is contained the entire celestial sea. Go to Rev.12:1 where in the New heaven and Earth the sea was no longer because it had been brought to understanding.

It can be said that the gospels take place in purgatory (or Galilee) which is between rebirth and ascension.

The triumphant entree into Jerusalem on two donkeys speak of both the old and the new as if the child has become the father of man now fully in charge of Pure Reason without emotion (no netherworld or subconscious mind).
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For some reason I am now compelled to whistle the tune to "Always look on the bright side of life."

Good point, and burn the flaming book before it burns you. :notworthy

But let me suggest here that passover has nothing to do with with the final days but rather the beginning where we, as lone sojourner, must protect the infant and love it to good health. In infancy narrative of Luke is great on this while the reality in more like the suddenness of John.
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Jerusalem was the conscious mind with the New Jerusalem being the New mind wherein is contained the entire celestial sea. Go to Rev.12:1 where in the New heaven and Earth the sea was no longer because it had been brought to understanding.
Well of course, all seas disappear once we understand them.

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It can be said that the gospels take place in purgatory (or Galilee) which is between rebirth and ascension.
Damn near anything can be said, even the incoherent, as is evidenced above.

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The triumphant entree into Jerusalem on two donkeys speak of both the old and the new as if the child has become the father of man now fully in charge of Pure Reason without emotion (no netherworld or subconscious mind).
No, this story was a result of an incorrect translation made by the author of Matthew.
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Good point, and burn the flaming book before it burns you. :notworthy

But let me suggest here that passover has nothing to do with with the final days but rather the beginning where we, as lone sojourner, must protect the infant and love it to good health. In infancy narrative of Luke is great on this while the reality in more like the suddenness of John.
I really have no idea what you are talking about Chili. If I am a lone sojourner, what infant do I have to protect? Even if you could resolve that inconsistency, I would still have no clue what you are trying to say.
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Well of course, all seas disappear once we understand them.
Except this one we must be able to 'walk on' before we get into the promised land.
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Damn near anything can be said, even the incoherent, as is evidenced above.
I have no problem losing you but it helps to know where I lost you. The problem is that I am not a theologion so I appreciate the question.

I would call Purgatory a fact if there is such a thing as rebirth to say that only those who are reborn did get their ass on fire and must get out of Galilee ASAP, which will be the completion of the race for them.
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No, this story was a result of an incorrect translation made by the author of Matthew.
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I really have no idea what you are talking about Chili. If I am a lone sojourner, what infant do I have to protect? Even if you could resolve that inconsistency, I would still have no clue what you are trying to say.
We are all strangers in a foreign land which really is the home of our ancestors by which we are predestined. As such can we go through life on our own and do the best we can, as we must, and take good care of ours as our own (the reality here is that they are not our own because we live beside ourself). We do that well and there is nothing wrong with that.

So then along comes religion that prints images of immortality into our mind and these images will sooner or later flash the idea of immortality into our conscious mind that prompts the question with regard to the purpose and meaning of life.

Out of this question a child can be born, which never really was a child, but just the very infancy of the renewal of our mind, and that is were the gospels begin in the mind of Joseph.
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Exactly.

Since I really haven't understood anything else you have said, I will concentrate on the Matthew issue.

Matthew made a mistranslation of the OT prophecy, which is why he places Jesus on two donkeys. The OT scripture is simply referring to a donkey colt born of a donkey, whereas Matthew translated it as a donkey colt and a donkey and then wrote the story based on this mistranslation.

No mystical metaphysical gymnastics are thus required to explain the authors intent, as it was a simple mistake, and one of many, that proves the errancy of the Bible.
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Exactly.

Since I really haven't understood anything else you have said, I will concentrate on the Matthew issue.

Matthew made a mistranslation of the OT prophecy, which is why he places Jesus on two donkeys. The OT scripture is simply referring to a donkey colt born of a donkey, whereas Matthew translated it as a donkey colt and a donkey and then wrote the story based on this mistranslation.

No mystical metaphysical gymnastics are thus required to explain the authors intent, as it was a simple mistake, and one of many, that proves the errancy of the Bible.
If you can't understand me it would be wise not to critique the bible because that will automatically make you a persecutor of Christ (be your own enemy which you promised earlier never to be again). If you think that Matthew did not see a connection between the colt and the donkey consider that Jesus was raised and here rode into Jerusalem while in charge of the father and the son. To identify this Jesus let me add that he was Joseph the upright ex Jew now fully in charge of his own destiny.
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If you can't understand me it would be wise not to critique the bible because that will automatically make you a persecutor of Christ (be your own enemy which you promised earlier never to be again). If you think that Matthew did not see a connection between the colt and the donkey consider that Jesus was raised and here rode into Jerusalem while in charge of the father and the son. To identify this Jesus let me add that he was Joseph the upright ex Jew now fully in charge of his own destiny.
Critiquing you equates to persecuting Christ???? :banghead:
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