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Toto · 05-04-2004, 04:24 PM

Died May 2, 2004

http://news.independent.co.uk/people...p?story=517617

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Maccoby noted that "scholars who lean over backwards to demonstrate their objectivity fall into the pit of negative partisanship".

As the stormy petrel of biblical and post-biblical scholarship, Maccoby could never be accused of this. His books on Jesus and Paul, backed up with the full knowledge of all the sources, were certain to cause controversy. Yet he was one of a school of Jewish experts in New Testament studies - others being Geza Vermes, Samuel Sandmel and Joseph Klausner - all of whom had to be treated with respect.

Al Kafirun · 05-04-2004, 04:39 PM

Awwwwwwwwwwwww, shit. I liked him, too. I was just starting to explore his work.

Matthew_Green · 05-04-2004, 05:11 PM

I'm so sorry to hear that Maccoby passed away! I have yet to read his books and he seems to have written some excellent food for thought! (From a Jewish perspective, of course!)

Matthew

Infidelettante · 05-04-2004, 06:39 PM

I always have to read books several times before they sink in. My third reading of The Mythmaker is due and it will be a sad journey.

JT

Baidarka · 05-07-2004, 04:41 AM

I think that his last book, Jesus the Pharisee, was printed in 2003. It does not seem to be available. Has anyone read it? Does anyone know if this book is coming out soon?

SLD · 05-07-2004, 06:02 AM

I too am saddened by the death of Maccoby. I had always thought it would be nice to correspond with him, but I never could find an email address. "The Mythmaker" was the first book I read on my journey to becoming a freethinker. It was then that I began to have extremely serious doubts about Christianity. I then ordered "Revolution in Judea" and that pretty much sealed the end of my Christianity.

SLD

Baidarka · 05-09-2004, 05:25 AM

"Shortly before his death, Maccoby completed his last book, Antisemitism and Modernity"
It seems that there are 2 new Maccoby books that I can look forward to reading.
Why is Maccoby the Rodney("I don't get no respect")Dangerfield of NT scholarship?
He is very rarely quoted in respectable scholarship and very rarely included in bibliographies.
Is he considered too partisan?
Is he considered a crackpot?
Does he stretch the evidence to far?

Vorkosigan · 05-09-2004, 05:39 AM

Because he shows in no uncertain terms what an idiot Paul was, and because he also argues that Jesus did not found Christianity. People who argue that are instantly relegated to the back benches.

Amaleq13 · 05-09-2004, 10:44 AM

I've only just recently gotten around to reading him but I am sorry to hear of his death.

Any fans interested in defending his views might want to take a look at

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=84972

PS Can somebody PM me the way to present links with their actual name instead of the address? I've seen it done but I don't know the trick. In other words, how could I have gotten the above link to read as the name of the thread rather than as it currently appears?

Toto · 05-09-2004, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaleq13

I've only just recently gotten around to reading him but I am sorry to hear of his death.

Any fans interested in defending his views might want to take a look at

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=84972

PS Can somebody PM me the way to present links with their actual name instead of the address? I've seen it done but I don't know the trick. In other words, how could I have gotten the above link to read as the name of the thread rather than as it currently appears?

It may be of general interest.

Easy way: click on the little globe icon that you see when you are composing. You will get a box. Type or copy in the name of the thread:

NT misrepresentation of Jews?

Hit enter, and you get another box. Copy in the URL = http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=84972 . Hit enter, and voila:

NT misrepresentation of Jews?

05-09-2004, 05:25 AM	#7
Baidarka Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 590	Is Hyam Maccoby the Rodney Dangerfield of NT scholarship? "Shortly before his death, Maccoby completed his last book, Antisemitism and Modernity" It seems that there are 2 new Maccoby books that I can look forward to reading. Why is Maccoby the Rodney("I don't get no respect")Dangerfield of NT scholarship? He is very rarely quoted in respectable scholarship and very rarely included in bibliographies. Is he considered too partisan? Is he considered a crackpot? Does he stretch the evidence to far?

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05-04-2004, 04:39 PM	#2
Al Kafirun Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: USA Posts: 323	Awwwwwwwwwwwww, shit. I liked him, too. I was just starting to explore his work.

05-04-2004, 05:11 PM	#3
Matthew_Green Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manteca Posts: 175	I'm so sorry to hear that Maccoby passed away! I have yet to read his books and he seems to have written some excellent food for thought! (From a Jewish perspective, of course!) Matthew

05-04-2004, 06:39 PM	#4
Infidelettante Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Deep South Posts: 889	I always have to read books several times before they sink in. My third reading of The Mythmaker is due and it will be a sad journey. JT

05-07-2004, 04:41 AM	#5
Baidarka Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 590	I think that his last book, Jesus the Pharisee, was printed in 2003. It does not seem to be available. Has anyone read it? Does anyone know if this book is coming out soon?

05-07-2004, 06:02 AM	#6
SLD Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 4,109	I too am saddened by the death of Maccoby. I had always thought it would be nice to correspond with him, but I never could find an email address. "The Mythmaker" was the first book I read on my journey to becoming a freethinker. It was then that I began to have extremely serious doubts about Christianity. I then ordered "Revolution in Judea" and that pretty much sealed the end of my Christianity. SLD

05-09-2004, 05:39 AM	#8
Vorkosigan Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Barrayar Posts: 11,866	Because he shows in no uncertain terms what an idiot Paul was, and because he also argues that Jesus did not found Christianity. People who argue that are instantly relegated to the back benches.

05-09-2004, 10:44 AM	#9
Amaleq13 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Eagle River, Alaska Posts: 7,816	I've only just recently gotten around to reading him but I am sorry to hear of his death. Any fans interested in defending his views might want to take a look at http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=84972 PS Can somebody PM me the way to present links with their actual name instead of the address? I've seen it done but I don't know the trick. In other words, how could I have gotten the above link to read as the name of the thread rather than as it currently appears?

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