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maryhelena · 02-27-2012, 01:11 AM

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There is a Google preview and e-book of The Making of Paul.

Thanks, I've viewed a bit of the amazon preview. Unfortunately, google ebooks are not available for South Africa.

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Duvduv · 03-01-2012, 04:03 PM

Where would I read about the argument that the Book of Acts was written by more than one author? I haven't succeeded yet in finding sources on Google. Thanks.

Toto · 03-01-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvduv

Where would I read about the argument that the Book of Acts was written by more than one author? I haven't succeeded yet in finding sources on Google. Thanks.

I don't know that any scholar has made that argument. There are a few passages that are referred to as the "we" passages, which appear to be written in a different style, but otherwise there is no reason to identify more than one author.

Adam · 03-01-2012, 11:19 PM

Try this link to F. F. Bruce's 1990 3rd Edition of Acts of the Apostles. It goes into Harnack's A and B sources, the "we" sections and the Antiochene source.

http://books.google.com/books?id=2lN...ticism&f=false

maryhelena · 03-03-2012, 05:58 AM

Richard Pervo questions Luke’s characterization of ‘Paul’:

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Page 148

Paul may have been born in Tarsus, and he had been a Pharisee, but he could not have received both the Jerusalem education of which be boasted and spent the time in Tarsus required to receive citizenship there. The Jerusalem background is dubious, and the claims of citizenship at Tarsus unlikely. Was Paul a Roman citizen? It is possible, but not certain. More importantly, he was not likely to have been a citizen of the high standing presented in Acts, where his procession of the franchise works as a “get out of jail free” card that is never played before the last possible minute (if then) and not played at all where one expects it - as grounds for an appeal to Caesar.

The purpose of Luke’s portrait is clear. Paul is certainly heroic, multi-cultural and omnicompetent, but Luke did not wish simply to paint a larger than life character. His “Renaissance man” is a universal figure, the all-but-perfect representative of an aspirating world religion that would clothe it’s Jewish message in Greek finery and conquer the Roman world. History would show that Luke was an insightful portrait painter.

.....Acts is replete with historical implausibility, an almost non-existent chronology, and a quite improbably characterization of its leading personality, none of which elements serve history and all of which serve the purpose of the author.

The Mystery of Acts: Richard Pervo (or via: amazon.co.uk)

my bolding

Symbolism - is Acts more than an attempt at pseudo-history? Could it be that it’s ‘mystery’ has more to do with symbolic representation than with a pseudo-historical account of early Christian origins? Things are not as they seem. It’s images created to convey not history but philosophical developments and ideals? 'Peter’ and ‘Paul’ being symbolic representations of two traditions - the older Jewish tradition and the new way forward into the Gentile, Roman, world? Is Acts a philosophical ‘play’ undercover of a pseudo-history? An intellectual journey rather than a pseudo-historical literal journey...

Is it simply the ingrained assumption, of an historical ‘Paul’, that is preventing Richard Pervo from taking that final step towards which his many years of research on Acts is pointing?

aa5874 · 03-03-2012, 09:26 AM

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Try this link to F. F. Bruce's 1990 3rd Edition of Acts of the Apostles. It goes into Harnack's A and B sources, the "we" sections and the Antiochene source.

http://books.google.com/books?id=2lN...ticism&f=false

Based on the very link you provided "source criticism is largely guesswork".

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03-01-2012, 04:03 PM	#32
Duvduv Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA Posts: 4,095	Where would I read about the argument that the Book of Acts was written by more than one author? I haven't succeeded yet in finding sources on Google. Thanks.

03-01-2012, 11:19 PM	#34
Adam Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Dixon CA Posts: 1,150	Try this link to F. F. Bruce's 1990 3rd Edition of Acts of the Apostles. It goes into Harnack's A and B sources, the "we" sections and the Antiochene source. http://books.google.com/books?id=2lN...ticism&f=false

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