Sheshbazzar

The Scriptures carefully conceal the number of handbreadths and the number of fingerbreadths that are in a cubit;
are the ignorant therefore justified in concluding that because the number of these were not openly mentioned in the Bible, that the cubit therefore has no such divisions?
Thus also the '3-4-5 rule', in as much as the commandment was given saying: "And thou shalt make the altar...five cubits long, and five cubits broad: the altar shall be foursquare:" for the command to be obeyed, the rule must needs also to be obeyed, written or not.

Moreover the Faith has always recognized the "unwritten Torah" and Scripture proves the "unwritten" even had greater authority than "that which is written".
For father Moses gave detailed laws of circumcision, then leaving not another written word on the matter, prevented even a single circumcision from being performed for the next 40 years, even all the remaining days of his life, that he might bring the children alive into the promised land.
-Zerubabble-

Sheshbazzar

All that study, and yet you have not read, nor heard, nor understood?
"the wind bloweth where it listeth", Nevertheless, did I not also write;

"that is not all the numbers I am able to now 'see' in these old hands" ?

For each number has its place and power, and whether I pick 5,6,8,9, all work together in testifying of the same truths, after all there is no seven except it be positioned between the six and the eight;
And the sums of the other sides of a Right triangle are the eight and nine standing in witness to the seven.
-Zerubabble-

Sheshbazzar

You did not read carefully, for what I wrote was;
"a 7th is not included, therefore is 'set apart' and accounted 'Holy'.."
The 7th is that which is 'set apart' and 'Holy', it is the crown which adorns the six.

offa

Interesting, You have an altar five by five (25 square) and it shall be 4 square (4x4) or 16 square. And where is the 3?, i.e., is there a math problem here? (obviously I am missing something)

Also, talking about geometry ... where was it used in the bible. Have we any structures today that reveal their achitecture of olde?

offa

greyline

Tonight I ate four Tim Tams*.

A fifth was not included, therefore is set apart and accounted holy.

Yea verily, I say unto thee, the fifth Tim Tam is the crown which adorns the fourth. These things are associated with all that I find to be upright, timtamsquare and eternal.

[*An Aussie chocolate biscuit. Yummm.]

Sheshbazzar

Perhaps an English Dictionary? the word written is "foursquare" not "4 square".

Sheshbazzar

After you figure out what the word "foursquare" means, you might then apply yourself to figuring out how many 'degrees', 'minutes' and 'seconds' are in any "foursquare" item;
And as I have been pressing for throughout this thread, in finding out how many "fingerbreadths", how many "handbreadths", how many "spans", and how many "feet" and "inches" are the length of each of the sides, and in the measure of the perimeter, then also consider all the same measures adding in the height, to accurately describe the item in three dimensions.
-Zerubabble-

offa

Well, pardon me. I have "now" learned that five by five can be foursquare by having 4 corners. A lesson form me was in the asking. I was trying to correlate a 3-4-5 rt triangle with 5 by 5 and 4 square. Interesting though! Also,I am aware that in Herodian times a 60 minute (24 hour day) clock was used and that when the "cock crew twice" it was an intercalation providing 6 extra hours of darkness.

Isn't Sheshbazzar another name for Zerubabbel? I am convinced that Sanballat is also another name for Zerubabbel.

The Persians had developed the Pythagorean Theorem long before Pythagoras was born and the Greeks stole it in order to get the credit.

later,

offa, time for a beer!

Sheshbazzar

My sincere apologies Offa, that in focusing my attention so closely on a concept, I committed a personal affront which was not at all intended.
If you happened to look up the verse that I was quoting from (Ex.27:1) you may have noted "and the height thereof shall be three cubits" which relates to your former observation of 5x5 being 25 square, then each side would be 3x5 or 15 squares, times the 4 sides (or 'faces') of the perimeter would contain 60 squares, 'encircling' 50 squares, (adding the top and the bottom surfaces or 'faces') with a volume of 5x5x3=75 cubic 'cubits'. (all these also following the following):
And of course all the other 'standard' geometrical considerations of 'cubic' figures, 24 corners of 90 degrees, or 4 corners of 270 degrees each composed of 3 adjoining 90 degree angles.
(this not even entering into the considerations of the equity of smaller units and relationships to other standards)
To me this is related to the calculating of the correct 'Day of Pentecost' (the '50th' day), "even unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall you number fifty days;" (Lev.23:16) stepping on some toes of Jewish 'tradition',
And to the calculating of 'The Year of Jubilee', (Lev.25:1-55)
above and beyond these, also in all manner of meteyard and measure. (Deut.25:13-16)

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From Sheshbazzar:
As the length of the day may vary by as much as a second, depending on the time of years, your entire system is negated from the beginning.

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