justme411

I must confirm my atheism here. The title was to draw attention to those who join me in my belief, as well as those who don't. I have a question for the Christians visiting this thread and would like to know if any other atheists have noticed this as well. According to Genesis, there was day and night on the first day, the second day, and the third day. However, the sun and moon weren't created until the fourth day. So how was there day and night, light and darkness, morning and evening on the other three days? Any comments? According to some the Bible has no misconceptions, but I prefer to disagree.

moosemaster1341

I personally prefer to think that while the bible is the word of God, it was also written by man, and therefore not without error. Also, can you give me an exact reference as to where I can find that information in Genesis? If it's the King James version, don't even bother, cause I'll just shoot that one down. The King James was put into Modern English from the Older version, too many typos and errors (Look into Psalm 46). While I'm not a Christian I do reserve the right to say this if you smash my argument: It's freaking God, it doesn't need the sun and moon to make night and day. I was also under the impression that there was darkness until God did the whole "Let there Be Light" thing, and they might have been just talking about time instead of variations in lighting with night and day.

justme411

Thanks for your reply...however, I feel that you are an incredible source to answer the question I asked. You "pretend" to know your versions of the Bible but you want an exact reference to where you can find that in the Bible...How about Genesis 1:1-16. And another thing...its the NIV and isn't it all put into modern english from the older version? It is the Bible right? If you aren't Christian why do you say, "It's freaking God"??

moosemaster1341

I never pretended to know my versions of the bible. I know the King James version of the bible, and I would have preferred a reference since I thought it might have been nice of you to inform me of where you got your information. It would be simpler than my looking through Genesis in the trial and error fashion. Yes, it is all put into modern English, though I find the King James version most inadequate because of it's Psalm 46 error. With the "It's freaking God", I was more pointing out two things: One, the inadequacy of many Christian debates in my mind, and Two, that I would think an all-powerful being (and I will add "if one exists" so as not to offend you by leading you to believe I am Christian) would not need the Sun and Moon to control light and darkness. To answer your question furtherly now that I have the reference I was looking for, the bible says that God created light and darkness and that those rotated by God's will to from night and day. The Sun, moon, and celestial bodies were created later to govern these two (light and darkness). Notice that not all light comes from the Sun, so I would assume that God created the sun as to harness the power of light and have night and day "set in stone".

Magus55

Light existed before there was a sun. The light was cast over half of the Earth leaving the other half dark.

Mobiius

It's Genesis. You know, the beginning... ? :huh:

Crucifiction

Do you know how badly fucked the solar system would be if a sun-like object suddenly popped up out of nowhere? And what would the planets orbit around?

Nevermind. It's the Bible. And I was expecting scientific accuracy.

Boomeister

Even if the creation story was remotely true, there was no person there to witness the creation until the end of it, when Adam and Eve came along. They are not credited to writing the creation story. There are various creation stories. When Moses came along (or probably someone else...Genesis is credited to Moses, but that's highly debatable), he had heard a creation story and wrote it down. Prescientific men didn't ask questions like you did, so it didn't seem odd for them to put that in there.


Boomeister

Boomeister

What does that even mean?


Boomeister

Crucifiction

Also note how the story differentiates between "the stars" and "the Sun". Ancient men would believe the Sun was different from stars and special. This indicates to me this story was fully written by men.