Voice of reason

In another thread IBELIEVEINHYMN stated "Of course the bible is without error or conflict. You can list a Bible contradiction, and I will search on Google for the answers. The answers are out there, for some reason, atheists don't search for them. but they are too concerned about researching the errors instead of the truth."

post # 25 of thread http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?t=275359

I want to take you up on this.

Mark 6:8 and Matthew 10:9-10; Luke 9:3
1.Can take a staff
(Mark 6:8) - "and He instructed them that they should take nothing for their journey, except a mere staff; no bread, no bag, no money in their belt."
2.Cannot take a staff
A.(Matthew 10:9-10) - "Do not acquire gold, or silver, or copper for your money belts, 10or a bag for your journey, or even two tunics, or sandals, or a staff; for the worker is worthy of his support."
B.(Luke 9:3) - "And He said to them, "Take nothing for your journey, neither a staff, nor a bag, nor bread, nor money; and do not even have two tunics apiece."

So take a staff or do not take a staff?

There are no textual variants in these verses in the Greek manuscripts so that cannot be it.

The word used for take in Luke and Mark is airos and the word for acquire in Matthew is ktaomai.

The context is the same for the verses being about the dead girl.

I would like to know how you reconcile this problem.

Sai

oh yes, and reconcile the value of Pi = 3.0 with reality.

Deus Ex

Plus the wildly different nativity stories of Matthew and Luke.

sanguines

Duh. Obviously, math < god.

show_no_mercy

One apologetic I'd like to know from him is the answer to is this:

But Jesus quote mines Psalm 110:1

This psalm is obviously written to David and isn't written by him. This is the obvious reading, reading both the Septuagint (http://bibledatabase.net/html/septuagint/19_109.htm) and the Hebrew (http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt26b0.htm). Why was Jesus taking this psalm out of context? Was he being intentionally dishonest?

IBelieveInHymn

No problem, All I do is search for the answers when I don't know the problem.

Mark 6:8In Mark the use of a walking stick (Mark 6:8) and sandals (Mark 6:9) is permitted, but not in Matthew 10:10 nor in Luke 10:4. Mark does not mention any prohibition to visit pagan territory and to enter Samaritan towns. These differences indicate a certain adaptation to conditions in and outside of Palestine and suggest in Mark's account a later activity in the church. For the rest, Jesus required of his apostles a total dependence on God for food and shelter; cf Mark 6:35-44; 8:1-9.

Matthew 10:9 The Twelve have received their own call and mission through God's gift, and the benefits they confer are likewise to be given freely. They are not to take with them money, provisions, or unnecessary clothing; their lodging and food will be provided by those who receive them.

Luke 9:3Take nothing for the journey: the absolute detachment required of the disciple (Luke 14:33) leads to complete reliance on God (Luke 12:22-31).

Just search for the answers. Good grief, how about using the internet other than degrading God?

What you have just done is called, "morphological similarity"

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/nostaff.html
http://www.usccb.org/

IBelieveInHymn

Did you expect the bible to say PI=3.4?

If a C.E.O of a company says his company is worth $1,000 when it's really worth $999.90, is he lying and inaccurate?

Come on now.. you're splitting hairs.

Voice of reason

Good grief I am not seeing an answer to the problem.

The text clearly states that they should take a staff and the other says do not take a staff that has not been addressed.

IBelieveInHymn

Read within my last post, I've highlighted the areas for you. Take nothing on your journey.

Kasper

No, 3.14 would have been nice.

Also, if you have to make analogies, can't you do it properly?

If we should convert your example to what PI should be like in the Bible, it would be:

PI = 3.141
PI according to the Bible = 3.142