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Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Galilee, Golgotha. Nothing in Paul's writings. Zero. |
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GAL 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Interpretation A. SEED Paul is saying that once you believe in Christ, you become the seed of Abraham. Christ is the seed of Abraham according to the covenant, not genetically and not ethnically - its a matter of faith. And this is how Gentiles could be of Adam's 'seed' too (and enjoy the 'fruits' of the covenant) - with their foreskins intact! Being of Abraham's seed means being a person of faith as Abraham demonstrated when he undertook to sacrifice Isaac unflinchingly. In the same way, Paul tells us in Phillipians, an unnamed god descended and underwent persecution and was exalted by being named Jesus. This god/angel demonstrated the same 'spirit' as Abraham and thus was of the same 'seed'. Philo tells us that Jesus' soul was like any other soul except he chose to tenaciously stick to the logos (divine wisdom) and thereby became one with it. Thus being of Abraham's seed has got nothing to do with genetics or bloodline: its spiritual. Just like you can call an evil person "Hitler's son" or Hitlerling. B. HEIRS Adam mucked up things. Abraham made them right so Abraham's heirs are freed from the sin of Adam. |
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Why would Paul need to emphasize or even mention that a historical Jesus was a Jew who was born of a woman? |
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