TheAlmightyFeaz

So sorry about this...I know this has been covered in just about every topic around here but I need them fast.

I need Biblical Contradictions. Good ones. I had a set from Joseph C. Sommer, but they were refuted and I don't feel like responding to the refutes. Thanks!

Magus55

There are none, move along. I'm sure some atheist will toss you SAB though, as if that can be considered a valid source.

Godless Wonder

Mark 9:1 is my fave.
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They will tell you that "the kingdom of God come with power" refers to the transfiguration of Christ.

But, there are other references to the kingdom of God:Here, the kingdom of god is the alternative to hell. (which doesn't seem to be "the transfiguration")
Hmm, but this is after after the transfiguration has already occurred.
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So it seems "kingdom of god" means whatever interpretation can be mustered such as to avoid contradiction. Eventually, they'll say something like, "the kingdom god is both present reality and future hope", or otherwise define it in such a way that no contradictions arise.

Among all of the above, defining "the kingdom of god come with power" to mean "the transfiguration" seems to me to be the interpretation which is stretched the thinnest. (Well, for me, it is stretched well past the breaking point. Some folks have absolutely no problem with that interpretation though, somehow.)

Magus55

Actually, those passages aren't a contradiction. We can see for example, that John, who was present at the Transfiguration, saw the kingdom of God before his death, in a vision. This account is in Revelation.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.


Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard [them]. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

See, the kingdom of God coming down from Heaven to Earth. John saw it happen. Jesus never said they would see it physically happen, He just said they would see it, which they did.

leftfist

I'm assuming you want Bible contradictions in order to argue with someone over whether the Bible is legitimate.

I mean this in the kindest possible way... if you have to ask on an Internet discussion board for a list of Bible contradictions, you are not qualified to have such an argument. There most definitely are numerous Bible contradictions, ranging from major issues of theology (is salvation through faith alone or are works necessary also?), to simple factual discrepancies (did Judas hang himself immediately after Jesus was arrested, or did he explode later after buying a plot of land?). In addition to contradictions, many major tenants of modern Christianity are completely unsupported or barely supported by the Bible (and I'm not only talking about Catholics!). But if you are just reading these things from a list you will be completely unable to back yourself up or have any sort of context for what you are saying.

Read the Bible. I actually enjoy the Bible quite a bit. A simple and open-minded reading of the Bible will reveal contradictions easily. But I would advise you not to only read to find contradictions; you can really learn a lot from the Bible.

One last thing... I know you'll do it anyway, but arguing about this stuff with a Christian is hopeless. You can point to the simplest and most blatant contradictory statements and a Christian will either find some ridiculous way to twist the words into a meaning the author obviously did not intend, or else say something like "Well I can't explain that, but I know the Bible is the word of God so I know that's not really a contradiction."

Godless Wonder

Clever. Somebody's been doing their homework. But "some" is plural. Got another witness? Just yanking your chain. Maybe I have to find another fave now.

EGGO

There's a lot of Bible contradictions, none that aren't that good on Skeptics Annointed Bible. Make sure not to use that, they're pretty sloppy.

Mullibok

I definitely agree that reading the material for yourself is a good idea, but I don't see anything wrong with looking for pointers on where to look. Just be sure to read the whole story that contains the line that looks contradictory, so you can defend against accusations of taking it out of context. Just go to the Infidels site and search for Biblical Contradictions, you'll find something.

Unbeliever

Most of the contradiction lists I've seen are extremely haphazard, making it very hard to find a particular one when you need it. So I've typed my whole list (413) of them, arranged by category, over at The Ethical Atheist forum. The list can be found here.

I hope you can find what you're looking for, just keep in mind the good advice given above. Let me know, if you would, whether this helps.

Grumpy

SAB has a lot of ingredients in its stew, but a lot of them are genuine contradictions. SAB also highlights Biblical cruelty, injustice, and ignorance, but I prefer internal contradictions because they're harder to argue against (using logic, anyway).

And when it comes to the standard list of contradictions, SAB has them all. In fact, the list is so long - 1073 items - it's hard to load the page.

Me, I stick with a meta-contradiction. 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is God-breathed..." versus 1 Corinthians 14:33 "God is not the author of confusion...". Since the Bible is indisputably confusing, God cannot be its author, which contradicts 2Tim, which is even more confusing!