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As I understand it, Peter and Paul split on this issue until a council in Jerusalem in about 50 CE, when it was decided that Paul would continue his evangelical mission among the Gentiles. The issue was huge; after all, Jesus not only said on several occasions that he had come to enforce the law, but he also told his disciples in the book of Matthew to avoid Gentile lands and the towns of the Samaritans in their preaching. And Matthew's account credits Jesus with alluding to Gentiles as dogs and stating that he has come to save the lost sheep of Israel, not anyone else. Among Paul's listeners were many Gentiles who wanted to convert to the early forms of the Jesus movement, but didn't want to give up pork, shellfish, etc. And the men, of course, didn't want to be circumcised, which I'm told hurts like hell in adulthood. Paul--or followers of Paul--relaxed the rules to allow new converts.
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Having written that, that does not mean that following Jewish practices . . . like--Ouch!--circumcision . . . were not an issue between the various groups. I am just exercising [Pedantry.--Ed.] caution about making historical conclusions based on texts that are trying to make a founding "story." Similarly: 4God: This is a nice confession of faith, but it may not reflect what actually happened. Nermal: Quote:
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hmm...how to put this? Obsolete is the correct term, but you used it incorrectly. Obsolete generally applies to something that was performing a job that has now been replaced by something either more efficient, cost effective, or whatever. Jesus retort is True as is what I stated. The law is the explainer of good and evil. Jesus, and His Testimony were of a greater law. In this same way, God was instructing Peter on this same issue. So, the law does not pass away, but is made obsolete by the new law. |
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I dont care about any gods words I LOVE BACON.
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In the Book of Galatians, and the passage in Acts its explained why Christians eat pork, and the other things that the devout Orthodox Jews do not eat. When the Bible was written the condemnation against eating pork made since sanitationwise. Pigs aren't clean, ovens were outside, being sure it was cooked properly so as to prevent illness was tough, so it made sense to prohibit its consumption. Now with modern sanitation, and cooking facilities there really is no reason to not eat pork unless you are a vegetarian, or someone watching your fat/salt intake. The Hebrew dietary laws made sense at the time, now they don't. That just reasonable beanpie.
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