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Cege · 08-26-2007, 12:00 PM

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Oh ye of little faith.

Dutchman builds modern Noah's Ark

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4853890.stm

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Dutchman Johan Huibers is building a working replica of Noah's Ark as a testament to his Christian faith. The 47-year-old from Schagen, 45km (30 miles) north of Amsterdam, plans to set sail in September through the interior waters of the Netherlands.
Johan's Ark is a fifth of the size of Noah's and will carry farmyard animals.

That boat didn't float:

A half-sized replica of the biblical Noah's Ark has been built by a Dutch man, complete with model animals. --->>

The ark opened its doors on Saturday, after almost two years' construction, most of it by Mr Huiber himself. --->>

He began building in May 2005, after he dreamed of the Netherlands being flooded.

"In February 1992, I had a dream that Holland will become flooded. The next day, I found a book about Noah's Ark in the local bookshop, and since then, my dream has been to build the ark," he said. --->>

Huiber's ark is waiting for a flood to test it's sea worthiness.

Chili · 08-26-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dlawbailey

Could we see a show of hands of all those who would suddenly declare their faith in God if and when such an ark is made? I do not see how an operable ark would prove anything.

Thanks,

Good point.

Merlin · 08-26-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dlawbailey

.....religious people are wrong, obviously.

But if the Bible is true, then a seaworthy Ark should be recreatable.

There should be modern recreations of the great pyramid too.
Where are they?

the Radio Star · 08-26-2007, 01:36 PM

Isn't there supposed to be a life-size Ark at the Creation Museum?

Vicious Love · 08-26-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

There should be modern recreations of the great pyramid too.
Where are they?

Don't need 'em. The original's right there. Doesn't look too seaworthy, though.

Merlin · 08-26-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

There should be modern recreations of the great pyramid too.
Where are they?

Don't need 'em. The original's right there. Doesn't look too seaworthy, though.

The point is that the technology to create a duplicate today is not necessitated for something to have been built in the past.

Vicious Love · 08-26-2007, 02:00 PM

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Don't need 'em. The original's right there. Doesn't look too seaworthy, though.

The point is that the technology to create a duplicate today is not necessitated for something to have been built in the past.

Are you suggesting we lack the technology to build the Great Pyramid today? Or just that Noah and his family had access to wood-tech more advanced than anything modern engineers can put together, even with modern manufacturing facilities and some metal parts?

Bear in mind that we're presently incapable of building an ark that can stay afloat on a perfectly calm body of water. Even if Noah could somehow outdo us in that regard, he still had to weather a megastorm of physically impossible proportions.

Edit: We can, however, build battle icebergs. And that's awesome.

Minimalist · 08-26-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Timetospend

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Originally Posted by dlawbailey

.....religious people are wrong, obviously.

But if the Bible is true, then a seaworthy Ark should be recreatable.

In fact, it's really hard to understand why there isn't a yearly building of an ark, just to show the unbelievers.

But the Ark is about a hundreed feet (thirty meters) longer than any wooden ship you can make - even with plywood.

Simple challenge: a wood boat 450 feet long or whatever.

Make it or shut up.

Could we see a show of hands of all those who would suddenly declare their faith in God if and when such an ark is made? I do not see how an operable ark would prove anything.

Thanks,

I'd be more impressed if someone could merely show where all the water came from to flood the earth up to the top of Mount Everest.

lpetrich · 08-26-2007, 02:21 PM

True, nobody has bothered to try to build a full-scale imitation of the Great Pyramid, but many people have performed experiments in constructing stone monuments using premodern technologies, so constructing such an imitation does seem to be feasible.

Merlin · 08-26-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

The point is that the technology to create a duplicate today is not necessitated for something to have been built in the past.

Are you suggesting we lack the technology to build the Great Pyramid today? Or just that Noah and his family had access to wood-tech more advanced than anything modern engineers can put together, even with modern manufacturing facilities and some metal parts?.

Both

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