Amaleq13

I'm not sure what it is you are asking. IOW, when you say "this word could mean that" what does "that" represent?

andy5

I mean, if branch has the same root word as Nazareth, that is what I'm referring to.

Cheerful Charlie

Jesse was the father of David who became King of Israel after Israel's first king, Saul, to whom he was not related. Jesse came from Bethlehem, and thus Bethlehem was closely linked to the idea of the messiah of apocalyptic Judaism.

Thus many apocalyptic Jews believed that the Messiah had to come from the House of David (Jesse) because of comments of the prophets Jeremiah and Ezekiel, and would have a connection with Bethlehem.

Nazarites are a seperate concept explained in Judges.

Late apocalyptic literature (Book of Enoch et al) built on the ideas of the prophets. Thus many apocalyptic messianic Jews rejected the claims of Christianity becase Jesus was not born in Bethlehem and not of the house of David.

Luke and Matthew tried to remedy these deficiencies with their "infant narratives", geneologies and contrived claims that Christ (a known Galilean), had the required connections to the House of David and Bethelem to be considered a bona fide messiah. Luke and Matthew though, tell two utterly contradictory tales. There was no apocalyptic requirment that the Messiah be a nazarite.

CC

Cheerful Charlie

No.

The way to figure stuff like this out is to do a google search for terms(KJV, narazite strong's number) for an online KJV bible with links to Strong's which is a list of cross referenced terms that will explain the Hebrew or Greek roots of such words.

Strong's is not necessarily 100% reliable but generally is close enough.

Or google etymology, nazarite.

CC

andy5

Well thanks for the replies, although evidently no one was able to give me a simple straight answer on my big question, so I'm kind of disappointed. I guess I am to presume that the argument is that that word is not associated, and the suggestion nester and branch and Nazarite are all connected then must have have been invented by those seeking to put it there. And I guess that is that, unless anyone has something further to add.

spin

Dear dears, "Nazarite" as a form is simply tendentious shoddiness. The form is ultimately derived from Heb. NZR (to dedicate, consecrate), which yields NZYR, ie "Nazirite" (one consecrated).

LXX Jdg 13:5 says that Samson would be a Nazarite to god from the womb. The Alexandrian LXX has nazeiraios while Mt 2:23 has nazwraios, the two forms being rather similar and scribal confusion could have caused the Matthean form from Jdg 13:5.

Nazirite has nothing to do with "branch" (Heb NCR) and almost certainly neither does Nazareth.


spin