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Old 06-03-2008, 12:27 PM   #1
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Default The Biblical God forgot an oath he made

Exodus 32:9-14 says that God forgot an oath he repeatedly made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and had to be reminded by Moses so he would not destroy the Hebrews.

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9 "I have seen these people," the LORD said to Moses, "and they are a stiff-necked people. 10 Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation."

11 But Moses sought the favor of the LORD his God. "O LORD," he said, "why should your anger burn against your people, whom you brought out of Egypt with great power and a mighty hand? 12 Why should the Egyptians say, 'It was with evil intent that he brought them out, to kill them in the mountains and to wipe them off the face of the earth'? Turn from your fierce anger; relent and do not bring disaster on your people. 13 Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: 'I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever.' " 14 Then the LORD relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.

Ok, Christians, especially inerrantists, please explain why God needed to be reminded by Moses of an oath he made.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:16 PM   #2
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Can I try an excuse out?

*clears throat*

This part of the Bible is not meant to be taken literally because God knows all. Since God knows all, this means he can not forget something. Since this passage has God forgetting something, we can obviously conclude it wasn't meant to be taken literally.

Good enough?

Boy, you know? This passage actually does explain a lot. Since God is a forgetful creature, that probably explains how the Earth became tilted. God must've been in the process of creating it when he turned his back for a split second, forgot about it, and it tilted over.

*slaps forehead*
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"I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky"

This could take a while...
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Exodus 32:10 said that G-d would make Moses into a great nation, and Moses was a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, so G-d would not have broken the covenant with them.
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Exodus 32:9-14 says that God forgot an oath he repeatedly made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and had to be reminded by Moses so he would not destroy the Hebrews.

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9 "I have seen these people," the LORD said to Moses, "and they are a stiff-necked people. 10 Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation."

11 But Moses sought the favor of the LORD his God. "O LORD," he said, "why should your anger burn against your people, whom you brought out of Egypt with great power and a mighty hand? 12 Why should the Egyptians say, 'It was with evil intent that he brought them out, to kill them in the mountains and to wipe them off the face of the earth'? Turn from your fierce anger; relent and do not bring disaster on your people. 13 Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: 'I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever.' " 14 Then the LORD relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.

Ok, Christians, especially inerrantists, please explain why God needed to be reminded by Moses of an oath he made.
Just because it says that Moses reminded him does not mean that God needed reminding. Why would God be bound by what Moses said. I think the meaning behind this passage is quiet clear. If I recorded that fact that you said that God forgot an oath, does that have anything to do with the fact that God does not forgot oaths?
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Exodus 32:9-14 says that God forgot an oath he repeatedly made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and had to be reminded by Moses so he would not destroy the Hebrews.

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9 "I have seen these people," the LORD said to Moses, "and they are a stiff-necked people. 10 Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation."

11 But Moses sought the favor of the LORD his God. "O LORD," he said, "why should your anger burn against your people, whom you brought out of Egypt with great power and a mighty hand? 12 Why should the Egyptians say, 'It was with evil intent that he brought them out, to kill them in the mountains and to wipe them off the face of the earth'? Turn from your fierce anger; relent and do not bring disaster on your people. 13 Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: 'I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever.' " 14 Then the LORD relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.

Ok, Christians, especially inerrantists, please explain why God needed to be reminded by Moses of an oath he made.
Just because it says that Moses reminded him does not mean that God needed reminding. Why would God be bound by what Moses said. I think the meaning behind this passage is quiet clear. If I recorded that fact that you said that God forgot an oath, does that have anything to do with the fact that God does not forgot oaths?
Wow, the excuses are out in bunches today for the immortal all-powerful timeless ruler of the universe!

Why would Moses have to remind him at all? God told Moses to leave him alone cause He was pissed as shit and said he was going to destroy them.

So, God says he will destroy them. Moses reminds God and God doesn't do it.

Yep, that sure sounds to me that God didn't need reminding.
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Maybe he was just testing Moses.
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Just because it says that Moses reminded him does not mean that God needed reminding. Why would God be bound by what Moses said. I think the meaning behind this passage is quiet clear. If I recorded that fact that you said that God forgot an oath, does that have anything to do with the fact that God does not forgot oaths?


Ok, so let me get this straight?! If Moses had not said anything

God would have what?

A) killed all the jews thus become a liar for breaking his word to
Abraham at al.

b) was jsut testing moses by LYING to moses?!

Interesting - either way your dog is a liar at best or pshyco.
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Just because it says that Moses reminded him does not mean that God needed reminding. Why would God be bound by what Moses said. I think the meaning behind this passage is quiet clear. If I recorded that fact that you said that God forgot an oath, does that have anything to do with the fact that God does not forgot oaths?
It says that God was about to destroy them and then Moses reminded him of his oath to Abraham and the others, and he repented of the evil he was about to do. If he did not need reminding, then why was he determined to destroy them until Moses interceded?
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Maybe he was just testing Moses.
Why would god need tests?
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