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Old 06-19-2012, 09:24 PM   #21
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AA, if there is no evidence we use inference and deduction, don't we?? I don't have Julius Cesaer's birth certificate and neither does anyone else, but we infer and deduce he was born based on many sources referring to him, although it is impossible to empirically prove his existence...
I asked you for the sources that gJohn used and now you tell me about Julius Caesar. Please, do NOT DIVERT from the issue.

Please, TELL ME is there any story in gJohn or sources so that we can infer Jesus was born???

Do you have sources that allow you to infer WHEN the author of gJohn was born???
Do you or do you not have the sources for the Lazarus story found in gJohn???

We can logically deduce that the author of gJohn used gMark or some similar source for the story that Jesus WALKED on the sea but we have NO other source that mentioned the Lazarus resurrection story.

We can infer that the Lazarus story was INVENTED by the author of gJohn UNLTIL other sources can be found.

I will NOT be sucked into using Imaginary sources for gJohn.

DATA FIRST--Theory Last--Imagination NEVER.

ALL Theories can be MODIFIED when NEW Data is found EXACTLY the same way a Verdict is Overturned when NEW evidence surfaces.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:03 AM   #22
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AA, that's fine. I have no problem with that. But inference can go in different directions. How can you say that you can ONLY infer that the story of Lazarus was invented because of a lack of other sources? One can also infer that the author HEARD the story from some other source. I don't see why you have to limit the source to invention since you know you cannot PROVE he invented it. This discussion seems to be going in circles.....
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