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Old 06-20-2011, 01:26 AM   #1
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Default Peer review? Arius of Alexandria as a Platonist Theologian in the Council of Nicaea

The Christian historians got it wrong purposefully. Arius the master heretic, described as the "Antichrist" by the orthodox, was not a "christian presbyter". The alteration from Platonist to Christian was a way of explaining the victorious ascent of the Christian religion to later generations of the faithful. I have written an essay on this subject entitled A Pageant of Christian Identity Frauds masquerade in the Academy of Plato



Does anyone have any ideas about how I might get this essay peer reviewed? FYI I have conducted many years of research but outside of any academic institution. This recent essay is a product of my research. How might I get critical comments on this idea from the academic institutions?

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This has been reposted from another thread I was reading Plutarch.

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Did the Christians coopt and adapt Plato's ideas?
Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite is an obvious example, tho he isn't until the 6th century.

I would think so, but's hard to know what was an affinity of ideas and what was intentional. THe NT authors must've had Greek educations, would that have included philosophy? I would guess so...

When Plato argues for the immortality of the soul in Phaedo, it seems Xtianlike. Likewise when he argues that it is better to suffer an injustice than commit one.

There's also an affinity between the notion of the Kingdom of God(or Heaven) and the invisible intelligible universe. That may be the most influential idea, since the intelligible is always present alongside us, not in a primordial past.

I've seen books on Hellenic ideas on Judaism, haven't read them, but I'm not aware of any that compare Plato and Xtianity. If there isn't, there should be.
I have just finished browing a related book.
FWIW here are my notes ....

The Legacy of Greece - Oxford University Press (1921)

RELIGION
by W. R. Inge, Dean of St.Pauls
p.26


"Greece for our purposes means not a race, but a culture,
a language and literature, and still more an attitude
towards life, which for us begins with Homer, and persists,
with many changes but no breaks, till the closure of the
Athenian lecture rooms by Justinian.

The civilization of the Roman Empire was not Italian but Greek.

It was lost to the West for nearly a thousand years. It was recovered
at the Renaissance, and from that time to this has been a potent
element in Western civilization. The Dark Ages and the early Middle Ages
are the period in which the West was cut off from Hellenism ... These
were the ages of the Catholic theocracy; and if we choose one man as the
founder of Catholicism as a theocratic system, we should have to name
neither Augustine not St.Paul,still less Jesus Christ, but Plato, who in
the Laws sketches out with such wonderful prescience the conditions for
such a polity, and the form which it would be compelled to take."


Hellenism then is not the mind of a particular ethnic type, not of a
particular period. It was not destroyed, though it was emasculated,
by the loss of political freedom; it was neither killed nor died a
natural death.

Its religion passed into Christian theology without any real break.
The early church spoke in Greek and thought in Greek.

p.29

It is quite unnecessary to look for Asiatic influences in a school
which clung close to the Attic tradition.

It should not be necessary to remind Hellenists that "Know Thyself"
passed for the supreme word of wisdom in the classical period,
or that Heraclitus revealed his method in the words "I searched myself".

"The teachings of Plato", says Justin, "are not alien to those of Christ;
and the same is true of the Stoics." "Heraclitus and Socrates lived in'
accordance to the divine Logos" and should be recognised as Christians.
Clement says that Plato wrote "by the inspiration of God".


Augustine, much later, finds that "only a few words and phrases" need
to be changed to bring Platonism into complete accord with Christianity.


The ethics of contemporary paganism, as Harnack shows,with special reference
to Porphyry,are almost identical with those of the Christians of his day.

Catholic Christianity is historically continuous with the old civilization,
which indeed continued to live in this region after its other traditions
and customs had been shattered. There are few other examples in history
of so great a difference between appearance and reality. Outwardly, the
continuity with Judaism seems to be unbroken, that with paganism to be
broken. In reality, the opposite is the case.


p.33

Further,too much is made of the conflict between the official cults of
paganism and Christian public worship. It is forgotten how completely,
in Hellenistic times, religion and philosophy were fused. Without under-
estimating the simple piety which, especially in country districts, still
attached itself to the temples and their ritual, we may say confidently
that the vital religion of the empire was associated with mystery-religions
and with the discipline of the "philosophic life".


p.42

Their sacrifices were for the most part of the genial type, a communion
meal with the god. But even in Greece, we must remember the gloomy chthonian
rites, and the degradations of Orphism mentioned by Plato in the "Republic".

"They persuade not only individuals but whole cities
that expiations and atonements for sins may be made
by sacrifice and amusements which fill a vacant hour,
and are equally at the service of the living and the dead;
the latter sort they call mysteries, and they redeem us
from the pains of hell, but if we neglect them no one
knows what awaits us."


This exploitation of sacramentalism was common enough in Greece; but the
characteristic Caesaro-Papism of Byzantium and modern imperium was wholly
foreign to Hellenism. It was introduced by Constantine as part of the
Orientalizing of the empire begun by Diocletian. As Seely says:


"Constantine purchaced an indefensible title by a charter.
He gave certain liberties and received in return passive
obedience. He gained a sanction for the Oriental theory of
government; in return he accepted the law of the Church.
He became irresponsible to his subjects on condition of
becoming responsible to Christ."


The Greeks never had a book religion, in the sense that Judaism became, and
Islam always was, a book religion. But they were in some degree of treating
Homer and Hesiod as inspired scriptures. To us it is plain that a long
religious history lies behind Homer, and that the treatment of the gods
in Epic poetry proves that they had almost ceased to be the objects of
religious feeling. Some of them are even comic characters, like the devil
in Scottish folklore. To turn these poems into sacred literature was to
court the ridicule of the Christians. But Homer was never supposed to
contain "the faith once delivered to the saints"; no religion of authority
could be built upon him, and Greek speculation remained far more unfettered
that the thought of Christendom has been until our own day.


p.45

Nothing can be further from the truth than to call the Greeks "intellectualists"
in the disparaging sense in which the word is now often used. The object of
philosophy was to teach a man to live well, and with that object to think
rightly about God, the world and himself. This close union between metaphysics,
morals and religion has remained as a permanent possession of the modern world.


The Hellenistic combination of Patonic metaphysics with Stoic ethics is still
the dominant type of Christain religious philosophy.



Asceticism has a continuous history within Hellenism. Even Homer knows of the
priests of chilly Dodona, the Selli, whose bare feet are unwashed, and who sleeps
on the ground.

The worship of Dionysus Zagreus in Thrace was accompanied by ascetic practices
before Pythagoras. Vergetarianism, which has always played an important part in
the ascetic life, was obligatory on all Pythagoreans.



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I think you got one of your previous papers peer reviewed. It did not go well.

If you are really serious about any sort of peer review, find a university course, even an online university, and take a course from a real professor. Submit your paper or part of it as a course assignment, get feedback, and take the criticisms seriously. Revise your paper in light of the criticisms. That's how things work.
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Thanks Toto. It is true that the Referee Report from JHL (2007) was unfavorable, and I think the reviewer searched BC&H at that date, and incorporated such responses as:
This is a revival of the theses of Athanasius Kircher and the AbbÈ Hardouin, who (in the hope of disarming the protestant appeal to primitive Christianity) argued that the whole corpus of ancient literature, including the Fathers, up to about 900 A.D. is a forgery. The reasoning of Kircher was based on the absence of numismatic corroboration for the written testimonies.


There is a critical problem with such a comparison and that is the C14 evidence (3rd/4th century CE), which my thesis uses to support its claims, and which immediately destroys the theory of Athanasius Kircher and the AbbÈ Hardouin. The reasoning of my theory certainly analyses the numismatic evidence, but is certainly not based upon it.


In any event, it was a good exercise at the time, and one that demonstrated that I am considering these matters more seriously than most. It was almost 4 years ago. How time flies when you're having fun. Yesterday we were not here, today we are here, tomorrow we are gone. Peace.
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