Steven Carr

This is a very easy question to answer.

1 Samuel 14:3 Now Ahijah was carrying an ephod. He was the son of Ahitub, who was the brother of Ichabod and a son of Phineas, son of Eli, the priest of the Lord in Shiloh.

Ahijah means 'brother of the Lord'.

As we have been repeatedly told, 'brother of the Lord' can only have one possible meaning - a blood relative of a real person.

So Ahijah must literally have been the brother of Yahweh.

Unless all of mainstream Biblical scholarship is wrong, and 'brother of the Lord' is not always to be taken with a heavy dose of literalism?

gurugeorge

I've just posted on another thread, in relation to this, to my mind one of the real giveaways is 1 Corinthians 9:5:-

Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and [as] the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?

Unless "Paul" is recommending incest, it's clearly a jargon term for him and for the people he's talking to.

GakuseiDon

Putting this together: Might this not have referred to a family (or even musical) group called "The Ahijahs"? So:

Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, the Ahijahs, and Cephas?

And then everyone forgot who the Ahijahs were? I mean, it is possible, isn't it? They weren't overly clever in those days, after all. And we have examples in modern times of famous musical groups being forgotten rather quickly.

aa5874

Theories that require MASS AMNESIA, MASS HALLUCINATIONS and MASS EMBELLISHMENTS are extremely weak.

Steven Carr

Have we? I can't remember any.

We do have Biblical evidence that people were called 'brother of the Lord'.

Luke also refers to the brothers of Jesus. They get a cameo appearance in Acts

'Those present were Peter, John, James and Andrew; Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew; James son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James. They all joined together constantly in prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers.'

James the brother of the Lord does not even get a name check, although he later went on to lead the entire movement.

Obviously Luke knew that the James the church leader was not one of those brothers that, or else he would have at least named him as there at the start of the church.

simongc

If JESUS had a brother , what was his heritage and DNA

as i have it on good authority from another forum that JC did not have or need DNA

gurugeorge

I'm sure that one day you will make an on-point, responsive post without any strawmen arguments or cleverly insinuated ad hominems - alas, it seems today was not to be that day

But I have faith!

Chili

How can Jesus have DNA if Christ was born and they called 'him' Jesus with the question remaining: who is the 'him' here that was called Jesus as 'the way' now with James being a 'different way' as brother of Jesus.

So now we have 2 Jesus' with one being the right and the other being the wrong way, naturally, so that heaven could be manifest in the plural above the earth where DNA-ers wailfully wane away.

Please note that Matthew and Mark's Jesus returned to old Galilee while Luke and John's Jesus ascended to the heavens above.

gupwalla

Uh oh...you might want to gently inform members of said forum of the heresy of docetism, lest they find themselves roasting over the purifying flames of the inquisition.

Jesus could not be "fully human" unless he had an entire complement of human DNA. We know he at least got his X-chromosome from Mary. I don't think any doctrine (except the aforementioned heresy of docetism) would contridict this.

Now, how he came by his Y-chromosome, without which he could not have developed into a male, is left as an exercise to the reader.

spamandham

q.e.d.