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Old 01-21-2008, 07:17 AM   #571
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Message to arnoldo: Are you going to tell us that when Abraham persecuted the Canaanites and stole parts of Canaan from them that that was not a self-fulfilled prophecy?
Do you have any proof that the modern day palestinians are descendents of the canannites? I guess you believe the United States should also pay restitution to the descendants of slaves and return the land back to the indians. Your claims are absurd.
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:17 AM   #572
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I understand the useless analogy perfectly. Can you answer the following question. Does the existence of Palestinians prove the existence of the God of the Muslims?
You're the one who is actually attempting to use this crackpot argument, arnoldo.

Not us.
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:23 AM   #573
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I understand the useless analogy perfectly. Can you answer the following question. Does the existence of Palestinians prove the existence of the God of the Muslims?
You're the one who is actually attempting to use this crackpot argument, arnoldo.

Not us.
Sorry, I didn't pose that question in the first place. Anyway I guess from your point of view Israel is proof of all things that are evil in the world, right?
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Does the existence of Palestinians prove the existence of the God of the Muslims?
No. Does the partition of Palestine prove the existence of the God of the Bible? No, because Genesis 17:8 says that God would give Abraham and his descendants ALL of the land of Canaan. You yourself said that the Jews have never occupied all of the land of Canaan, meaning that the Jews could not possibly have restored a nation they they never had. Following your same line of reasoning, if the Jews occupied one square mile of Palestine, which is approximately the same land as the ancient land of Canaan, that would be fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Genesis 17:8 does not say anything about Jerusalem. All that it mention is all of the land of Canaan.

If the Bible did not say that the Jews were God's chosen people, would the partition of Palestine have occurred the way that it occurred? Of course not, which proves that the Partition of Palestine was self-fulfilled, Bible based prophecy. No Bible, no Partition of Palestine.
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Message to arnoldo: Why did God promise to give the land of Canaan to Abraham and then refuse to give it to him?
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Message to arnoldo: Why did God promise to give the land of Canaan to Abraham and then refuse to give it to him?
Sorry, God again made the promise of the land to Abraham's son Issac not Ishmael. Just because you don't understand or misinterpret bible prophecy doesn't mean it's not true.
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Anyway I guess from your point of view Israel is proof of all things that are evil in the world, right?
Oh, the Jews are only a minor problem. The major problem is God. With parasites alone, God has killed more people than all of the wars in history, with no possible benefits for himself or for anyone else.

The only reason that Jews and Arabs have ever had any problems is because God made sure that they were in the same places at the same times. This is analogous to the detestible, unlawful practice of cockfighting. Cocks would not fight unless humans put them in the same places at the same times. Why didn't God enable the Jews to set up a homeland where they did not have to murder anyone to establish their homeland? Or, why didn't God give the Jews enough money to legally purchase Canaan from the Canaanites?

Why do animals kill each other? From a Christian perspective, because God put them in the same places at the same time, and forced them to kill each other.
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Why do animals kill each other? From a Christian perspective, because God put them in the same places at the same time, and forced them to kill each other.
Of course animals could choose to go against their god-given nature and refuse to play the game of killing each other (and starve to death).


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God again made the promise of the land to Abraham's son Issac not Ishmael.
Ok, why did God promise to give the land of Canaan to Issac and then refuse to give it to him?
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You're the one who is actually attempting to use this crackpot argument, arnoldo.

Not us.
Sorry, I didn't pose that question in the first place.
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Sorry, the Israelis, Jews, whatever term you like are the children of Abraham, thus the proof of Israel is proof of God's existence.
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