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Steven Carr · 05-17-2010, 03:40 AM

Is it true that Michael Licona now thinks he cannot produce enough evidence for an empty tomb, so he does not even try to demonstrate that it was a fact that there was an empty tomb?

Switch89 · 05-17-2010, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Carr

Is it true that Michael Licona now thinks he cannot produce enough evidence for an empty tomb, so he does not even try to demonstrate that it was a fact that there was an empty tomb?

Not likely. I could be wrong, but I doubt he would go back on his position like that. Has he stopped using it in his recent debates or something? Maybe you should contact him directly and ask him. He has a website here:
http://www.risenjesus.com

Steven Carr · 05-17-2010, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Switch89

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Originally Posted by Steven Carr

Is it true that Michael Licona now thinks he cannot produce enough evidence for an empty tomb, so he does not even try to demonstrate that it was a fact that there was an empty tomb?

Not likely. I could be wrong, but I doubt he would go back on his position like that. Has he stopped using it in his recent debates or something? Maybe you should contact him directly and ask him. He has a website here:
http://www.risenjesus.com

http://formerfundy.blogspot.com/2010...leven-why.html explains all

Toto · 05-17-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Pulliam

I had lunch with Mike Licona last month. We both live in ATL and we had a lively discussion. He told me that he no longer uses "the empty tomb" as one of his "minimal facts." Not because he doesn't believe it, he does; but because it is the hardest to support.

But his "minimal facts" are not sufficient to support his argument for the resurrection without an empty tomb, I would think.

Minimalist · 05-17-2010, 09:05 AM

More like no facts.

Brian63 · 05-17-2010, 09:13 AM

From his perspective, he could think that there is enough evidence to convince an objective person that there was an empty tomb. However, some people (like us atheists) are, to some degree, biased against that possibility, and there is not enough evidence to overcome that bias. There would be enough evidence for other apologetic claims (post-resurrection appearances, growth of Christianity, etc.) to convince less-biased people though.

I do not agree with that at all, but it seems a more plausible and accurate interpretation of (the little we know of) his view.

Brian

Steven Carr · 06-15-2010, 02:50 AM

It does seem that Licona has given up trying to demonstrate that there was an empty tomb.

SO how can he demonstrate a resurrection from said tomb?

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Minimalist Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,808	More like no facts.

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Brian63 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: My own little fantasy world Posts: 8,911	From his perspective, he could think that there is enough evidence to convince an objective person that there was an empty tomb. However, some people (like us atheists) are, to some degree, biased against that possibility, and there is not enough evidence to overcome that bias. There would be enough evidence for other apologetic claims (post-resurrection appearances, growth of Christianity, etc.) to convince less-biased people though. I do not agree with that at all, but it seems a more plausible and accurate interpretation of (the little we know of) his view. Brian

06-15-2010, 02:50 AM	#7
Steven Carr Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: England Posts: 5,629	It does seem that Licona has given up trying to demonstrate that there was an empty tomb. SO how can he demonstrate a resurrection from said tomb?

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