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Old 07-20-2004, 01:41 PM   #1
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"and they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old..." joshua 6.21

"and they smote all the souls that were therein with the edge of the sword, utterly destroying them: there was not any left to breath...as the lord commanded moses..." joshua 11.11-15

i could go on but....

genocide. just another one of god's wonderful creations.
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I'm not sure what the specific topic is you wish to discuss. If you could elaborate, it would help determine if this is the proper forum.
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i just wanna hear what people think about what i said. do you agree or disagree? and why?
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i just wanna hear what people think about what i said. do you agree or disagree? and why?
I think it is a parable and means something other than what it says, like "widowvirgin," for example.
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i just wanna hear what people think about what i said. do you agree or disagree? and why?
I think it is what you get when the war god of a nomadic tribe evolves into The One True God.
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I think it is what you get when the war god of a nomadic tribe evolves into The One True God.

so then the god of the bible is not the same god for christians?
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I think it is a parable and means something other than what it says, like "widowvirgin," for example.

hmmm? it doesn't sound like a parable to me. it is clear that god is commanding the israelites to destroy a complete people. if the christians believe in the bible entirely, then they must believe that god is the creator of genocide, right? it wouldn't make sense to only accept a few things from the bible.
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"and they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old..." joshua 6.21

"and they smote all the souls that were therein with the edge of the sword, utterly destroying them: there was not any left to breath...as the lord commanded moses..." joshua 11.11-15

i could go on but....

genocide. just another one of god's wonderful creations.
Its the Battle of Jericho. For one its not genocide, since its one city, and we aren't exactly foreign to the concept of war and killing, and as such, aren't really in a position to judge it as immoral.
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So what you're saying then, Magus, is that because we as a people have gone to war, we are immediately disqualified from ever calling any war in the past "wrong" or "immoral"?

Even if we, personally, disagree with the wars that our leaders have committed our nations to?
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Its the Battle of Jericho. For one its not genocide, since its one city, and we aren't exactly foreign to the concept of war and killing, and as such, aren't really in a position to judge it as immoral.
i never said it was immoral. in fact all stated was what was in the bible. and yes it was genocide, genocied means "a systematic destruction of a racial or CULTURAL group." the battle of jericho seems pretty systematic to me, don't you think?
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