Sheshonq

Google maps prove you wrong. For that matter, your sources prove you wrong, but you're stuck in denial and keep missing that.

Your attempt to say that suburbs equals a city is dead on arrival. New York City includes suburbs (Westchester), but nobody would ever think that NYC and Westchester were equals, or that they were "twin cities".

arnoldo

[QUOTE=Jack the Bodiless;5148451]See post #55. The bogus argument is that ONLY NEBBY was supposed to destroy Tyre, not many other nations. Of course the other absurd claim that the minimalist has to make is that Nebby attacked a mighty ISLAND FORTRESS for 13 years. Only minimalist believe this happened, if you have any respectable scholarly/historical sources that back up your empty claims please do so (maybe Nebby attacked the Island Sea Fortress using sea horses :Cheeky. Also if you can back up the lame excuse the Nebby blocked ports along the coast to create an "blockade of resources" for the mighty ISLAND FORTRESS for 13 years please provide historical/archaelogical sources.

Sheshonq

That isn't bogus; it's how the prophecy reads. "Other nations" refers to the elements of the Babylonian army.

It's not absurd; it's the actual history. Why do you think the siege lasted so long? If Nebuchadnezzar had been attacking the mainland, it would have been over a lot quicker than 13 years. That point has been brought up to you no less than four times; you lack the courage to face it directly.

You've been given the sources for this, yet you reject it. Here's one of your fundie sources that says the same thing - no doubt you'll reject it because you can't handle the truth:

Tyre
(a rock), a celebrated commercial city of Phoenicia, on the coast of the Mediterranean. Its Hebrew name, Tzor, signifies a rock; which well agrees with the site of Sur, the modern town, on a rocky peninsula, formerly an island. There is no doubt that, previous to the siege of the city by Alexander the Great, Tyre was situated on an island;


MSN Encarta:

From its fortified island bastion, Tyre repulsed several major assaults, including a 13-year siege by Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II in the 6th century bc.

Minimalist

No fair resorting to 'facts', Shesshonq. Facts have no place in a fundie argument.

Jack the Bodiless

Only the most deluded of fundies believe that any city on the mainland withstood Nebby for 13 years: that is completely impossible.

If you'd still like to believe otherwise: let's see if you can provide just ONE non-fundie source that says so.

arnoldo

Regardless, the city of Tyre fell and the princes of Tyre were taken into captivity into babylon just as the jewish princes were taken into babylon when Jerusalem fell. To Babylon......573-539...... Baal II................

Sheshonq

"Regardless" is one of your codewords; it signals a lame attempt to handwave away all the mistakes identified in your posts. It won't work.

No, it didn't. Tyre reached a truce with Babylon, as a result of holding them off for 13 years during Babylon's failed attempt to siege the island city.

Jerusalem didn't just lose princes; it was burned to the ground. Big difference which you deliberately ignore.

arnoldo

Since Zekey saw that Nebby failed to destroy Tyre I guess that's when he added the MANY NATIONS part would later destroy it. I guess your not buying that Alexander the Great fits the definition of one of the many nations which would later destroy Tyre, right?

Sheshonq

Are you deaf?

This has already been explained a dozen times - "many nations" are the various parts of Babylon's empire.

spin

What?


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