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John A. Broussard · 11-21-2005, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mata leao

ohh I keep forgetiing, sauron knows everything...... the burden of proof is always on the Christians, even though atheism is in the gutters of public acceptance....okay, sauron is right, the gospel has not yet been preached to every language on earth (not yet!)

Terrrific. Here our self-confessed Champion U.S. Debater illustrates another great debating technique. When presented with facts, change the subject and speak of "gutters of public acceptance."

Very, very effective.

John A. Broussard · 11-21-2005, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauron

I merely reminded everyone of the fact that you tend to make up facts whenever your argument needs one.

You forget that that is a prerogative of a U.S. Champion Debater.

judge · 11-21-2005, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mata leao

Bible prophecy-the gospel (of Jesus Christ) shall be preached throughout the world......."The Spirit of Jesus Christ is very strong in the church in China" President George Bush, speaking today ftom the pulpit of a Christian Church in Beijing China, broadcast throughout the world by satelllite uplink. I would argue that that prophecy is being fulfilled as we watch. Cheers!

OK but who is Baalam in this story?

Secular Pinoy · 11-22-2005, 08:13 PM

As has been pointed out, the Great Commission isn't a prophecy. Also, from reading it, it seems like an interpolation. Are the interpolators divinely inspired? Was the original text incomplete?

mata leao · 11-23-2005, 03:52 PM

wrong. The great commisssion is both a prophecy and a commission. It is being fulfilled as we type. And the original text is just fine!

John A. Broussard · 11-23-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mata leao

wrong. The great commisssion is both a prophecy and a commission. It is being fulfilled as we type. And the original text is just fine!

Terrific!

How about some examples of that fulfillment?

mata leao · 11-23-2005, 10:50 PM

john you are an example of that fulfillment.

Secular Pinoy · 11-24-2005, 03:34 AM

You still haven't shown how it was a prophecy, you only assert ad nauseam. While that might work in your church, it is woefully inadequate here.

John A. Broussard · 11-24-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mata leao

john you are an example of that fulfillment.

Thank you for this substantive answer to my question. The clarity and meaningfulness of your response is truly inspiring.

Again, I've learned a great deal from a U.S. Champion Debater.

Where did you train, by the way?

Just curious.

Johnny Skeptic · 11-24-2005, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mata leao

Bible prophecy-the gospel (of Jesus Christ) shall be preached throughout the world......."The Spirit of Jesus Christ is very strong in the church in China" President George Bush, speaking today ftom the pulpit of a Christian Church in Beijing China, broadcast throughout the world by satelllite uplink. I would argue that that prophecy is being fulfilled as we watch. Cheers!

How utterly absurd. Matthew 24:14 says "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." The gospel of the kingdom has already been preached unto all nations, but where is Jesus? A century or a millennia from now, the same question will still apply. Since hundreds of millions of people have died without every knowing about the gospel of the kingdom, why is it important that the gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all of the world?

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11-22-2005, 08:13 PM	#34
Secular Pinoy Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 1,994	As has been pointed out, the Great Commission isn't a prophecy. Also, from reading it, it seems like an interpolation. Are the interpolators divinely inspired? Was the original text incomplete?

11-23-2005, 03:52 PM	#35
mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	wrong. The great commisssion is both a prophecy and a commission. It is being fulfilled as we type. And the original text is just fine!

11-23-2005, 10:50 PM	#37
mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	john you are an example of that fulfillment.

11-24-2005, 03:34 AM	#38
Secular Pinoy Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 1,994	You still haven't shown how it was a prophecy, you only assert ad nauseam. While that might work in your church, it is woefully inadequate here.

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