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mata leao · 11-20-2005, 08:03 AM

Bible prophecy-the gospel (of Jesus Christ) shall be preached throughout the world......."The Spirit of Jesus Christ is very strong in the church in China" President George Bush, speaking today ftom the pulpit of a Christian Church in Beijing China, broadcast throughout the world by satelllite uplink. I would argue that that prophecy is being fulfilled as we watch. Cheers!

Wayne Delia · 11-20-2005, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mata leao

Bible prophecy-the gospel (of Jesus Christ) shall be preached throughout the world......."The Spirit of Jesus Christ is very strong in the church in China" President George Bush, speaking today ftom the pulpit of a Christian Church in Beijing China, broadcast throughout the world by satelllite uplink. I would argue that that prophecy is being fulfilled as we watch. Cheers!

You would lose that argument.

WMD

general_koffi · 11-20-2005, 08:33 AM

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, to an extent.

vipertaja · 11-20-2005, 08:35 AM

What prophecy? *Cause I could think of one in a movie.
It's called "omen".

mata leao · 11-20-2005, 08:57 AM

seems to me we are winning that argument!

vipertaja · 11-20-2005, 10:10 AM

What argument? I see an opinion here and that's all really.
So yes..you are winning the argument that you believe the
prophecy is being fulfilled. Should someone argue that you
don't believe it's happening?

Amaleq13 · 11-20-2005, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by general_koffi

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, to an extent.

It is a self-fulfilling prophecy, period. That is because Christians don't just understand this as a prophecy but as a command to be obeyed.

mata leao is correct that the prophecy is being fulfilled but it is important to add that this is because Christians are making it happen. Otherwise, one might mistakenly think the "fulfillment" constitutes evidence of miraculous foresight when it is, in reality nothing but an observation that of the willingness of Christians to obey commands they believe Christ has given to them.

Why mata leao thinks anyone denies this, however, is a mystery.

Toto · 11-20-2005, 10:55 AM

The Great Commission was a command to Christians, NOT a prophecy.

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All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth. Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world (Mt. 28:18-20 ASV).

There is no prophecy here to fulfill.

Unless you think George W. Bush is the anti-Christ?

Chili · 11-20-2005, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Toto

The Great Commission was a command to Christians, NOT a prophecy.

There is no prophecy here to fulfill.

Unless you think George W. Bush is the anti-Christ?

He is, or at least his commision is and it looks like he now has China on fire for the Lord.

mata leao · 11-20-2005, 11:12 AM

I disagree. I see it as both a commission and a prophecy. Bible also says that when the gospel is preached throughout the world, then the end will come. Bible also says that this will happen and that God's word will not return unto him void. Wycliffe translators are ostensibly about five to seven tribal dialects away from translating the Bible into every extant language. exciting isnt it? ( i think Hillary is the anti-christ!) (thats just kidding)

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mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	Bible Prophecy-the Great Commission Bible prophecy-the gospel (of Jesus Christ) shall be preached throughout the world......."The Spirit of Jesus Christ is very strong in the church in China" President George Bush, speaking today ftom the pulpit of a Christian Church in Beijing China, broadcast throughout the world by satelllite uplink. I would argue that that prophecy is being fulfilled as we watch. Cheers!

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11-20-2005, 08:33 AM	#3
general_koffi Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 10,887	It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, to an extent.

11-20-2005, 08:35 AM	#4
vipertaja Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 233	What prophecy? *Cause I could think of one in a movie. It's called "omen".

11-20-2005, 08:57 AM	#5
mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	seems to me we are winning that argument!

11-20-2005, 10:10 AM	#6
vipertaja Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 233	What argument? I see an opinion here and that's all really. So yes..you are winning the argument that you believe the prophecy is being fulfilled. Should someone argue that you don't believe it's happening?

11-20-2005, 11:12 AM	#10
mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	I disagree. I see it as both a commission and a prophecy. Bible also says that when the gospel is preached throughout the world, then the end will come. Bible also says that this will happen and that God's word will not return unto him void. Wycliffe translators are ostensibly about five to seven tribal dialects away from translating the Bible into every extant language. exciting isnt it? ( i think Hillary is the anti-christ!) (thats just kidding)

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